05:10 <dnkl> rockorager: works for me :)

19:46 <brocellous> Can someone explain to me why both foot and foot-direct exist? tmux does the same thing where tmux advertises 8 color and -direct full color

19:47 <brocellous> I understand from the manpage that most apps don't care, but what's the backstory here?

19:58 <cbb> running `infocmp -d foot foot-direct` should illustrate the difference

19:58 <cbb> the reason no one really uses -direct is because it's a dirty hack

19:59 <cbb> it not just in the case of foot, but all similarly named terminfo entries

19:59 <cbb> s/it not/not/

20:06 <cbb> if I remember correctly, it encodes some palette colors using the `SGR 38 ; 2 ; ...` format

20:09 <cbb> and causes various glitches with certain colors, the details of which I can't recall atm

20:19 <cbb> TERM=xterm-256color tput setaf 12 | hexdump -C

20:19 <cbb> TERM=xterm-direct tput setaf 12 | hexdump -C

20:21 <brocellous> I know that they are different, I have seen the infocmp output.

20:22 <brocellous> I'm wondering why both exist.

20:42 <cbb> I'm guessing the *-direct entries were added as a hack, to shoehorn them into working with the pre-existing setaf/setab capabilities

20:42 <cbb> I think I've seen the reason explained in either the xterm or ncurses docs somewhere, but I've long since forgotten it

20:43 <dnkl> brocellous: there's no way to emit 24-bit colors with the non-direct terminfo, if you want to use terminfo capabilities only

20:45 <dnkl> tmux solved it in a better way, by adding new terminfo capabilities. But the ncurses way of doing it, is using the *direct terminfos.

20:48 <cbb> to answer the question "why do both exist?" more practically... it's basically because terminfo is legacy junk with lots of limitations and compat concerns papered over with hacks

21:30 <brocellous> dnkl: thanks, that explains it

21:46 <sewn> what sort of software does the author of foot use? (eg. compositor/distro)