00:55 <ivandi> ukky: apparmor is easier to setup. i had it working on slackware desktop back in the day.

01:14 <ukky> ivandi: It seems SELinux is more strict compared to AppArmor: https://phoenixnap.com/kb/apparmor-vs-selinux

01:20 <ukky> SELinux is last in priority list. Need to master Crux first; patching Crux next; creating ports next; creating cross-toolchains next; building cross-Crux on Crux-host next; maybe then SELinux

01:25 <farkuhar> ukky: why not OpenBSD for your headless router? The pledge and unveil syscalls look like a better fit for your preference "simple, minimalistic setup/design" compared to SELinux or even AppArmor. https://lwn.net/Articles/767137/

01:39 <ukky> farkuhar: If I had more free time and less projects to handle, I would test OpenBSD. In my circumstances it is more practical to have similar setup (OS) on all of my systems. Headless router has plenty of resources (1U rackmount server).

01:47 <ocb> netbsd with secmodel_securelevel=2 and rump kernel for network driver isolation would also be a fit for 'simple, minimalistic setup/design'

10:36 <cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: newsboat: update to 2.31

10:36 <cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: dar: update to 2.7.9

10:36 <cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: btrfs-progs: update to 6.2.2

10:36 <cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: a2ps: update to 4.15.3

11:30 <shahab> I want to use SSH session during the installation

11:30 <shahab> so after booting the media

11:31 <shahab> I do a "/etc/rc.d/sshd start"

11:31 <shahab> the key files get generated

11:31 <shahab> but I cannot SSH to the running setup

11:31 <shahab> I cannot even SSH from another Virtual Console (ctrl-alt-f2) to the same machine:

11:31 <shahab> ssh root@127.0.0.1

11:31 <ukky> shahab: set root password

11:31 <shahab> it just times out

11:31 <shahab> ah ok

11:32 <shahab> I did add "PermitRootLogin yes" to "/etc/ssh/sshd_config"

11:32 <shahab> but didn't try that.

11:32 <shahab> thanks ukky

11:32 <ukky> you are welcome

11:33 <shahab> it did not work.

11:34 <shahab> it looks like there's a firewall enabled

11:34 <shahab> is it true?

11:34 <shahab> neither "sshd -d" nor "ssh -vv" spit out anything about being connected.

11:34 <ukky> is your network up?

11:34 <shahab> it's all inside QEMU

11:35 <shahab> one virtual console to another

11:35 <shahab> 127.0.0.1

11:35 <shahab> oh

11:35 <shahab> damn

11:35 <shahab> let me check

11:35 <shahab> ifconfig

11:35 <ukky> ip address show

11:36 <shahab> yes!

11:36 <shahab> "ifconfig lo up" did the trick

11:37 <shahab> now I'm gonna rinse and repeat with "eth0" and actually from outside QEMU.

11:37 <shahab> thank you ukky!

11:37 <ukky> glad being usefull