07:31 <SiFuh> bountyht: He also makes the official ISO

08:04 <Romster> with windows 11 having so many issues i'll keep using Linux like nothing happend, though at work, customers when they get to 11 welp, just blame microsoft nothing i can do

08:25 <frinnst> that's why I love office365

08:25 <frinnst> someone to blame

08:25 <Romster> when azure goes down :D

08:28 <bountyht> Romster: $job here is running Linux and OpenBSD, thankfully.

08:29 <bountyht> Also, my mother managed to botch a Windows install on her laptop. Or rather, Windows botched itself. That kind of forced me to install the first Linux Magazine DVD I found since I was in a rural area with no Internet.

08:29 <bountyht> So life is good

08:40 <Romster> lucky bountyht

12:35 <cruxbot> [opt.git/3.6]: firefox-bin: 92.0.1 -> 93.0

16:17 <SiFuh> pedja: I did systemctl enable rc-local and all it did was give me a lecture about some shit. So I ln -s /usr/****/some-weird-location/rc-local.service to the aprropriate location then edited some init.d/boot.local

16:17 <SiFuh> Surely there must be an easier way to run rfkill block all at startup

16:18 <SiFuh> I tried the script in openSuSE for systemd-rfkill.service but it would forget the settings

16:40 <braewoods> SiFuh: forced to use systemd somewhere?

16:41 <SiFuh> braewoods: Yeah on an openSuSE box. But no worries, I am sending it to DHL tomorrow to send to another continent

16:42 <SiFuh> And I ain't joking :-P

16:42 <braewoods> SiFuh: do you need a custom service?

16:43 <SiFuh> Don't know, don't care, rc-local is running already, I shut it down and packed it up and I am not turning it on again

16:43 <braewoods> Ok..

16:43 <SiFuh> But thanks anyways

16:44 <braewoods> due to systemd's asynchronous design you can't always used the sysvinit synchronous approach.

16:44 <SiFuh> Yeah, I am fully aware of how retarded systemd is

16:45 <braewoods> it's just different... it's more fine grained than sysvinit ever was.

16:45 <SiFuh> I ended up linking some rc-local.service and creating an /etc/init.d/boot.local file

16:46 <braewoods> one issue i've had was services failing due to starting too early

16:46 <braewoods> they needed a device to be enumerated by the kernel before it could start properly

16:46 <SiFuh> I just wanted to run rfkill block all

16:46 <braewoods> you have to bind the service manually afaik

16:46 <SiFuh> Should not be so annoying

16:47 <SiFuh> Anyways it is done, they'll probably format and install windows 7 anyways

16:47 <braewoods> why did you need to install opensuse anyway?

16:47 <braewoods> opensuse is usually a business oriented distribution

16:47 <braewoods> i don't hear much use of it in the consumer space

16:48 <SiFuh> I didn't need to do anything. They kept questioning me about it since I was a SuSE user in the 90's

16:48 <SiFuh> So I installed the openSuSE to shut them up

16:48 <braewoods> you sold something then?

16:49 <SiFuh> Old people are always locked in some fixation

16:50 <SiFuh> I've been using OpenBSD for decades and they still think I am using SuSE linux and don't even realize that SuSE linux doesn't exist really

16:52 <SiFuh> Like my grandmother. When I was a child I would drink tea without the tea. So hotwater, milk and sugar. 20 years later my grandmother is yelling at me about how I must not know myself because I changed so fast and now drink black tea and black coffee without sugar.

16:59 <pedja> openSUSE Leap works just fine as a desktop :)

16:59 <SiFuh> I didn't know Jessica Walter passed away in March

17:00 <SiFuh> pedja: Yeah, seems to be working well. I have in istalled with plasma 5 and was doing a stress test for a week

17:03 <SiFuh> I thought it was funny to be able to send the wastebin to the wastebin though.

17:04 <SiFuh> bbl going to watch Doom Patrol's latest episode

22:48 <elderK> Guys, is it possible to have qt4 and qt5 present on the same system?

22:48 <elderK> I'd like to run OpenMW. Unfortunately, they only support QT4.