<bountyht>
Hi people. What's up? I am toying around a bit and I was considering Crux for some playful testing.
<bountyht>
So, may I ask why you guys choose Crux over other source based distros?
<SiFuh>
Faster, cleaner, neater, very BSD like and highly configurable
<braewoods>
bountyht: because we're old sticks in the mud. that's good enough reason for us. :D
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* braewoods
inserts laugh track.
<bountyht>
lol, ok, you score points everytime you mention BSD :-)
<bountyht>
I see you are using signify for the repositories
<pedja>
don't think there were too many source-based distributions when I started using Crux around 2003-ish
<bountyht>
I was considering Gentoo for playing too but they seem to integrate a lot of "newisms" very tightly. Like there is trouble trying to build a desktop without a seat manager over there or so I have heard
<pedja>
consolekit?
<bountyht>
I think they kicked that one out and went with elogind
<bountyht>
I am bummed by that because Slackware (which is my non-BSD alternative if need be) has brought elognd in killing some functionallity which used to be available from the components it replaces
<SiFuh>
slackware is great but it is kind of messy I think
<bountyht>
I don't hate elogind but I hate it when they bring something new and replace something old that was more functional than the old thing
<bountyht>
SiFuh: I used to be a big Slackware fan. Now I regard it as the less bad Linux I have experience with.
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<bountyht>
Which is the main reason I am toying with new shinny Linuxes
<pedja>
iirc, consolekit and consolekit2(fork by xfce/gentoo devs) stopped being developed a while back. so they kind of had to replace it
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<SiFuh>
Yes, it is moving that way for sure
<bountyht>
I do more and more BSD every year
<SiFuh>
Closest to BSD I can find is CRUX
<bountyht>
pedja: Afaik the BSDs are still patching and supporting the *kits.
<pedja>
no idea, I stopped playing with freebsd years ago
<bountyht>
Also I am of the camp that if a piece of software has no issues it is ok if left unmaintained for 5 years as long as it does not explode in your face :-)
<bountyht>
I am more of a Net/OpenBSD guy
<bountyht>
FreeBSD is a lot like a BSD licensed Linux
<SiFuh>
<- OpenBSD
<bountyht>
The only problem I have with OpenBSD is that patches sent to the mailing list have a bad tendency to end in /dev/null hahahaha
<SiFuh>
I sent a patch in 2002 and I think it was about 2005 when it was finally applied
<bountyht>
"Hey guys, I found this docummentation bug regarding your libc stuff, here is a patch and here are the references and the RFCs and the link to the affected *.c and *.h's and and and"
<bountyht>
and and and silence takes over :-)
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<bountyht>
Is there any officially endorsed method for FDE?
<bountyht>
The wiki does not seem very clear about it
<SiFuh>
Full Disk Encryption?
<bountyht>
Yes
<bountyht>
Or PFDE if you feel pedantic
<SiFuh>
None, but it can be done and I have done both both passwordless and password
<elderK>
Hey guys, what's the best way to remove "stale" packages?
<elderK>
I see we have prt-get listorphans and stuff, but I was wondering if there was a better way other than reading that list carefully,. removing what I feel is safe and repeating the process.
<joacim>
there's pkgfoster
<joacim>
but it didnt work so great when i tested it on my system
<elderK>
So, how do you keep your system clean?
<elderK>
Mine seem to accumulate cruft over time.
<joacim>
i dont really. i mostly just remove stuff by memory
<joacim>
pkgfoster might work better for others. i think there is something uncommon with my system that breaks it