<farkuhar>
Ah, so that's what they meant by the comment "Use shared path for both user config file and its dir". But by miscomputing the pointer dir_end (where a null byte is temporarily written before the directory separator is later restored), they inadvertently test for the existence of $HOME/.config/tint2/t rather than the intended $HOME/.config/tint2
<farkuhar>
And of course "restoring" a directory separator, in a place that originally contained the "i", is what produces the bullshit path.
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: I know that JewTube censors a lot, but naming your title like that really comes over as very clickbaity.
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: I believe I'm going to get banned from #go-nuts (official Go IRC channel) soon for saying that the Rust community is gay. They are already mad at me because "homophobia".
<remiliascarlet>
So I just said that it's not like I'm afraid of homo sapiens, I just don't think sexual orientation belongs in the tech industry, you can pretend to be whoever or whatever you want, just bringing the gay agenda up all the time is completely unnecessary.
<remiliascarlet>
They didn't respond yet because I said it just a few minutes ago, but I feel like I'll get "+B"'d really soon.
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: before I apply a patch, I want to make sure that the original code really does fail on all platforms. If the "off-by-two" error only occurs because of a particular character encoding, and the original code works fine elsewhere, I'd rather write a patch that tests for the conditions associated with failure.
<farkuhar>
the pointer arithmetic is being performed with outputs from two different functions: snprintf and strlen_const. After inlining their definition of strlen_const, the relevant functions are snprintf and sizeof. If there's any discrepancy in how these two functions' return values are meant to be interpreted, then the pointer arithmetic will break.
<farkuhar>
But suppose there's a platform where snprintf and sizeof are implemented in a way that requires no changes in the original code. I'd like to insert a test for that, and avoid overwriting the calculation of the dir_end pointer on such platforms.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I reckon it is bad coding. I think they never tested it on a system without a tint2rc file.
<SiFuh>
Don't forget. I showed you a couple of sites where other people have this issue
<SiFuh>
They both do this "cp tint2/t/nt2rc tint2/tint2rc
<farkuhar>
Thanks to those sites you shared, I know the failure is more common than just the two CRUX systems that I tested. But I don't want to take the chance that the patch I create might cause breakage on a system configured slightly differently (where the original code actually worked as intended).
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Just patch it to do a better job. As I said yesterday. It only seems to create the bullshit file when there is not tint2rc. But if tint2rc exists it doesn't create the bullshit file. I am guessing it was never tested on a system without tint2rc
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: okay, I have a patch ready to deploy. I just need to boot up the machine that has my contrib signing key, and then I can push the update.
<SiFuh>
I can't test it because I don't have a GUI Linux system
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: what I find interesting is that the original commit has dir_end = userpath + size - sizeof("tint2rc") - 1; but someone dropped the " - 1" between that commit and the release of the 17.1.3 tarball. They knew they had committed an "off-by-one" error, but they applied a correction in the wrong direction, making it an "off-by-two" error!
<farkuhar>
That's definitely a sloppy commit. It looks like they forgot they were doing pointer arithmetic, and just blindly substituted for the pattern "sizeof(...) - 1" when they should have applied the distributive law to the subtraction of (strlen_const(...) + 1).
<farkuhar>
Okay, that assuages my concerns about the possibility of a platform where the original code works as intended. Nope, it's just sloppy coding (as SiFuh said from the beginning).
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: You know if you move those two 'S' into a different location you can turn that assuages into sausages
<farkuhar>
I can't be bothered to open a GitLab account just to report this issue to the upstream maintainer, but if SiFuh wants to do so on my behalf, all the necessary details are there in my posts above.
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: when ente showed up to say hello in #crux yesterday, I was tempted to ask "are you related to preteens/serpente?"
<SiFuh>
Heh. need another e
<lavaball>
yesterday's current breaks neovim.
<SiFuh>
Wrong channel
<SiFuh>
This is #crux-social. Not #current-neovim
<SiFuh>
Hahaha
<lavaball>
i can't talk in openbsd.
<lavaball>
so i tell it to these people here, who also have openbsd running.
<SiFuh>
I was banned from #OpenBSD for years
<remiliascarlet>
That's odd, I'm sure you were there just recently.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: --> was
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: Speaking of banned, as predicted, I got banned from #go-nuts.
<remiliascarlet>
Guess I should go back to making web backends in PHP then.
<remiliascarlet>
Or not, I already wanted to quit web development anyway.
<remiliascarlet>
Or maybe switch to COBOL, at least their community doesn't seem to have gone woke.
<remiliascarlet>
And lots of job opportunities too.
<SiFuh>
Bigotry?
<SiFuh>
What a stupid mislabelling
<remiliascarlet>
Big 'O Tree!
<remiliascarlet>
Reminds me of that meme where they showed 3 different IQ levels of autism. Low IQ ones end up being woke, gay, leftist vegans. Mid IQ ones end up working for NASA or FBI. High IQ ones end up being geniuses like Nicolas Tesla.
<remiliascarlet>
Alright, eat your grass, and don't complain to me after you die.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Notice the wording? Go Mad and Eat Grass <-- Sounds like Vegans
<lavaball>
i'm not quite there yet.
<lavaball>
though right now i'm not eating anything at all. monday again.
<SiFuh>
German Holodomor?
<lavaball>
haha
<lavaball>
what?
<lavaball>
you know i'm in germany, right?
<remiliascarlet>
I think if I ever meet an unhinged vegan in real life rioting near the meat section of a supermarket, I'll tell them "be glad I won't take you for dinner".
<lavaball>
and now, i do that every month. cuts down about 10% of feeding costs.
<remiliascarlet>
lavaball: Minced meat, does that make more sense to you than "ground beef"?
<remiliascarlet>
You know, that type of meat with which you can form burger patties.
<lavaball>
i thought beef was expensive. i guess only the steak part then.
<remiliascarlet>
Yes, steak is expensive.
<SiFuh>
lavaball: Bavarian
<lavaball>
technically franconian.
<remiliascarlet>
Not sure about Germany, but here in Japan, the more fatty the part of any animal, the more expensive. Because fatty meat is priced highly, and is considered premium quality.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: The worst burgers used minced meat.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: fat meat is expensive in many countries
<SiFuh>
fatty*
<remiliascarlet>
Even in the west? Because I thought they consider lean meat to be better.
<SiFuh>
Wagu is extremely expensive.
<SiFuh>
Fatty beef is tastier than lean
<remiliascarlet>
Tastier and healthier too.
<SiFuh>
Lean is good for some things. Usualy sold to the poor people, the plebs, the commoners.
<remiliascarlet>
Also, beef tongue is pretty cheap.
<SiFuh>
So they can sell the lie about seed oils
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: I still can't find anyone who wants to sell it to me
<SiFuh>
Seems the Muslims are against it. I need to find out more.
<remiliascarlet>
Here in Japan beef tongue is available just about everywhere.
<SiFuh>
My neighbour use to munch on that when he was a kid
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: How about beef liver? Because American carnivores always recommend that, but I can't find beef liver anywhere here, only pork liver.
<SiFuh>
I get liver everywhere here. But you want the dark reddish colour, like maroon almost.
<remiliascarlet>
Pork liver over here is very dark reddish.
<SiFuh>
Any other colour, don't touch it. Her aunt brought us some liver and I handed it back to her because it was grey
<SiFuh>
You will need to tag them, inject them, raise and feed them. You will need a lot of land if you want grass fed.
<SiFuh>
You will get constant visits from vetenarians and government live stock agents.
<remiliascarlet>
I look up for any Japanese sellers of livestock, and all I get is government propaganda about climatism instead. Search engines these days really are useless!
<SiFuh>
Yep
<remiliascarlet>
I saw some videos about the Maasai, they own goats as life stock. Basically, they pick one goat to feast on, they grab them by the neck until they die, then each person gets to drink a big portion of blood, and then they grill the meat.
<remiliascarlet>
They won't let any part of the animal to waste.
<remiliascarlet>
s/to waste/go to waste
<remiliascarlet>
Whenever the adult kills the animal, the kids are all happy, because they know dinner is coming.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: In Australia it is illegal to name an animal you eat
<remiliascarlet>
What the fuck?
<remiliascarlet>
So you can't say "beef", but have to use "red meat"?
<SiFuh>
No, you can't name your cow Betsy and then kill it and eat it.
<remiliascarlet>
Oh, that's what you mean.
<remiliascarlet>
Still a useless law.
<remiliascarlet>
How are they supposed to enforce that?
<SiFuh>
It becomes a pet if you named it and eating of pets in Australia is illegal
<SiFuh>
How does Singapore enforce the law that it is illegal to not flush a toilet?
<remiliascarlet>
Reminds me, I was at the train station a few hours ago, there's a pretty colorful poster just outside of the bathrooms asking everyone to not leave trash in front of the bathrooms, and right beneath that poster you can find a lot of trash.
<remiliascarlet>
Mostly empty beer cans and empty juice packs.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: In the town of Sarpourenx, you cannot die within the city limits unless you already have your burial plot purchased in the local cemetery. This has to do with the fact that the cemetery is full, so the mayor issued an ordinance in 2008. He added, "Offenders will be severely punished."
<SiFuh>
That's as bad "It is a punishable by death offence in Cambodia to intentionally jump on a landmine."
<SiFuh>
In China, Tibetan Buddist monks are not allowed to reincarnate after they die unless they have been granted permission from the government.
<remiliascarlet>
"you cannot die within the city limits unless you already have your burial plot purchased in the local cemetery." That sounds more like a law that would only exist in 1 South Park episode until the end of that episode.
<remiliascarlet>
"China, Israel, Russia, and Iran" Interesting how Israel is now all of the sudden part of "the bad guys" after having been the most protected (fake) country since 1945.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Probably because they needed Israel to finish the spelling for 'Saurischian Laniareris'
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: Little Kitty Big City is an awesome game.
<remiliascarlet>
Because it lets you trip over smartphone zombies, who will get really angry over it.
<SiFuh>
Thought I was quite clear I wasn't a gamer
<SiFuh>
I even had choice words to insult every gamer that ever existed in a rant :-P
<SiFuh>
Hahaha
<remiliascarlet>
Whatever it is, anything that makes fun of smartphone zombies is awesome.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Do it in real life and apologize. It's funny because no one really wants to pick a fight. So they will do everything to avoid it.
<remiliascarlet>
I sometimes stop in front of a smartphone zombie and wait until they bump into me.
<remiliascarlet>
But apparently they see me on time, and end up not bumping into me.
<remiliascarlet>
There's a poster at the train station that depicts smartphone zombies as literal zombies, and the text says "can you see where you're going?".
<remiliascarlet>
And there's a video ad in some trains that depicts smartphone zombies like an angry gorilla who just bumps into everybody while staring on its phone.
<remiliascarlet>
That old guy at the end was really nice at least.
<SiFuh>
Yeah, but I have a question. Why the hell was there a scene with the guy wearing nail polish holding the fake phone?
<farkuhar>
SiFuh is not a gamer? That clears up my confusion about his lack of a GUI Linux system; I thought he still had a flight simulator on one of his CRUX machines.
<SiFuh>
It's on an external USB drive. And it is a flight simulator. Not what you'd call a game
<farkuhar>
Not what I'd call a game? Quoting Mary Poppins: For every task that must be done there is an element of fun. Find the fun, and snap! -- the job's a game!
<SiFuh>
It's a simulator.
<farkuhar>
Those air traffic controllers who had a near-collision at the DC National airport last week ... maybe they weren't bringing enough fun into their job, and so they let their attention wander. Staying on task is easier if you get into a state of flow, as typically happens for gamers.
<SiFuh>
X Plane 11 isn't fun
<SiFuh>
It's as boring as...
<SiFuh>
You set up to fly from BNE in Australia and land FRU in Kyrgzstan. The flight takes over 16 hours.
<SiFuh>
Real life weather conditions can be downloaded and prepared and the time of day. You plan your route and get approval or diversions and you must adjust.
<farkuhar>
Being an air traffic controller is not intrinsically fun either. But you can approach the job with the right mindset, and avoid dozing off just when two planes are on a collision course.
<SiFuh>
If you are running out of fuel, you need to land and refill but if that is the case, you flew the aircraft wrong
<dlcusa>
Then there are people who have landed airliners on aircraft carriers. ;-)
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: My favorite is trying to land a 747 on an aircraft carrier
<dlcusa>
Yes.
<SiFuh>
I think it is the only fun I ever had using the simulator
<SiFuh>
I am sure everyone is dead
<dlcusa>
"Any landing you can walk away from..."
<SiFuh>
No DEI shit. Unless the 747 identifies as a F14A Tomcat
<SiFuh>
.......Is a good landing
<SiFuh>
My favorite was the landing in Khazakstan
<SiFuh>
Real life
<dlcusa>
"If you can reuse the aircraft the next day..."
<SiFuh>
I was the only one laughing at the pilots words because he was speaking English.
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: He said something like this 'We were originally suppose to land on runway 5 but now we are directed to land on runway 2. Runway 2 is the oldest runway in all of Khazakstan. It is corrugated
<SiFuh>
So if parts of the plane fall off, don't worry it is normal.
<dlcusa>
Such cardboard is amaingly tough.
<SiFuh>
After we landed he jokingly said "That wasn't so bad now was it?"
<SiFuh>
I don't think they expected an English speaker on their plane but I was laughing and everyone was looking at me like I had a mental issue
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: You ever fly to former Soviet Countries? The moment you land they all clap and cheer.
<dlcusa>
Did you report customer satisfaction?
<SiFuh>
None there dude
<dlcusa>
Never been in the vacinity.
<SiFuh>
My friend who lived in Russia who is not Russian said that during the Soviet times, many of their dead relatives were 'plastered' on that runway. So that is why they clap.
<SiFuh>
I don't know if he is correct. I think they are just happy to not be runway pizza
<SiFuh>
But I will accept both ;-)
<SiFuh>
It's like a movie ends. Everyone cheering and clapping
<SiFuh>
I have been on so many flights, I tend to just setup a way to sleep and pass out. Wake up when we are landing. Sick of long flights. 8 hours is enough.
<dlcusa>
Ryan's point about living to fly the next day is well-taken by a professional.
<SiFuh>
When I flew to Kyrgyzstan for work, I made sure I took an 8 day break in Malaysia which is exactly 8 hours into the 16 hour flight.
<SiFuh>
I love flying. I just hate it when I am not the pilot.
<SiFuh>
And their movies suck...
<SiFuh>
Although, seeing Crocodile Dundee on a flight was pretty fucking cool
<dlcusa>
Especially one who regularly flies in and out of bush strips.
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: My favorite is the SU37
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: Never done that. Closest I came to that was from Phoenix, Arizona. Little shitty old Cesna.
<SiFuh>
Mum hated it because we were bouncing all over the place and she was filling up doggy bags
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: Your simulator is still on the move?
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Actually my most fun is flying the Helicopter from a runway in China. DCY = ZUDC. It is the world's highest airport so it is insanely difficult to get the chopper off the ground.
<dlcusa>
Was on the phone. I haven't done anything with ACM code since the ARM release (whicj I gather has serious problems).
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: A pillow is more comfortable
<dlcusa>
Oh, and bbsol is be back sooner or later (UID--unless I die which can be assumed).
<SiFuh>
I care not acronymns. Lost interest after it got abused to insane levels.
<SiFuh>
I will tell her a person to speak English in Telegram if they try talking to me like that shit.
<SiFuh>
her? the
<SiFuh>
Acronymns in everyday conversation and expecting everyone to understand what drivel you are saying is quite offensive. At least in the airline sector you are trained to understand specific acronymns
<dlcusa>
What about Tenzing-Hillary Airport (LUA)?
<SiFuh>
LOL is still debated. That is how retarded internet English has become.
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: Why are we talking about LUA and what are we comparing it too?
<SiFuh>
We assuming Nepal has the worlds highest airport?
<dlcusa>
9000' ASL Nepal field perpendicular to the mountain it is built upon near Mt. Everest.
<SiFuh>
Tibet is way higher than Nepal
<SiFuh>
And the mountains in Sichuan are even higher
<SiFuh>
Okay, now I understand
<dlcusa>
But there are no go-arounds.
<SiFuh>
DCY is 14,472 feet
<dlcusa>
Thin air indeed.
<SiFuh>
Very
<SiFuh>
Check out this perspective. 9K vs 14.4K. That is more than half of 9K added on top of 9K
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<SiFuh>
Wow, ZUDC, ZUBD, ZUDR, ZUKD, ZUAL are all in the 14K zone
<SiFuh>
Peru SPVI is 13.3K
<SiFuh>
zorz: is here <-- sad story in three words
<dlcusa>
I doubt I'd have ever become a bush pilot even if my eyes had been good enough to pursue the career.
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: My eyes are fine, but I was denied because the education department refused to release my 10th grade report card.
<dlcusa>
Wow.
<SiFuh>
When I joined the airforce. They had to release it. But I was too old.
<SiFuh>
So screw the system
<SiFuh>
They wanted me as a translator for South East Asian languages rather than a driver, pilot or mechanic.
<SiFuh>
I only applied for driver, pilot or mechanic for the ADF
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: I called them on the phone and said "I will join the Chinese military because they pay better" then hung up. My friend from France was pissing his pants laughing.
<SiFuh>
I ended up moving to Kyrgyzstan after that
<dlcusa>
Security clearances have been problematic ever since?
<SiFuh>
No
<SiFuh>
They knew I was joking
<dlcusa>
Does seem like a reasonable approach to never being forced into one.
<SiFuh>
By the way, to give you more context on why the education department withheld my 10th grade certificate. I am a twin.
<SiFuh>
My mother was poor. But she had to pay double the fees that other parents paid
<dlcusa>
Geez/\.
<SiFuh>
She was annoyed we had to pay 50$ for bus fees even though we never took a bus and when I did, she had to pay
<SiFuh>
But the worst part was the General section. You had to pay 80$ for General. And when my mother asked what is General they couldn't answer so my mother refused to pay.
<SiFuh>
So the education department at the end of the year withheld everything
<SiFuh>
witheld*
<dlcusa>
Which country?
<SiFuh>
So my twin sister doesn't have her stuff but I do. Because the ADF (Australian Defense Force) demanded it and the Education department provided is <-- Country is here
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: I even looked into joing the US military
<dlcusa>
Oops, bbsol...
<SiFuh>
I would have joined the US military is I was young enough to be a driver, pilot or a mechanic
<SiFuh>
What is with is? it is it and if ffs
<SiFuh>
But now I don't want too. To many faggots and poofters and blue haired fucks in it
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: I had alternative agendas though. Hence airforce was to be most important.
<SiFuh>
I wanted to see EBEs UFOs USOs and so on
<SiFuh>
I wanted to joing APIS
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