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<TuxTheArchUser> How to get ft5x touchscreen to work?
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<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Thank you!
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<TuxTheArchUser> Is it possible to build my own Armbian image for Allwinner A10 tablet?
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Not oob.
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Oh, why?
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> For once code for such old sunxi was deprecated long ago and for the other it would need customization in order to work. Check FAQ in armbian docs for the answer why.
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> So painful...
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> I wish it could be easier
<archetech>
can be spend some $
<archetech>
tightwad
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> ARM isn't plug and play.....Well it becomes more and more convenient the more money you spend. Get proper system with UEFI support and generic image will work.
<archetech>
plenty of proven stable arm stuff
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Sorry, but no. I rather tearing apart Intel ME from 2nd gen Intel Tablet PC and using it
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Allwinner A10 is entirely open-source
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Except Cedar
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Sorry, but no. I rather tearing apart Intel ME from 2nd gen Intel Tablet PC and using it with coreboot
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> The fact that it is open source doesn't not solve the issues you face make a specific os work. You have to invest time or ask/pay somebody to do that for you.
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> At least I can trust my device
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> And I have full control over it
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Generic Allwinner A10 images work on this tablet
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Then take it apart, check what is needed to work and implement in the build framework 🙂
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Kernel in some Allwinner A10 images is sometimes very ancient XD
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> You can check armbian docs. There are two example PRs linked as examples how to add support for a new board or even family. Unfortunately there is no detailed documentation for this task available yet.
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> I would be so happy if I was able to get mainline kernel with not ancient distro to work on this tablet...
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Oh, okay
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Anything Cubieboard-related works fine on this laptop
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Well the fact that this tiny core thing works is kind of proof of concept that it is possible and the DTB and other probably needed hacks can be gathered from them.
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Mainline kernel already has DTB for A10
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Cubieboard is available in the build framework. No ides about it's status though.
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> I mean kernel.org kernel
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Cubieboard is available in the build framework. No idea about it's status though.
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> But no GUI and WiFi if I'm not wrong
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> 8192cu is required for WiFi
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> And ft5x_ts for touchscreen
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> It's generic DTB for the A10 SoC probably. Still needs adjustments to the particular hw it is meant to run.
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Okayy
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Maybe there are some 3rd party drivers for that chip available? Armbian ships a couple of such by default
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> 3rd party drivers?
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> They're already in mainline kernel if I'm not wrong, just have to enabled
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Drivers that are written for Linux but not in mainline
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Hmm
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> CedarX
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> They follow mainline but do not get up streamed
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Open-source VDPAU
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> And probably NAND
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> In fact this tablet is literally just SBC connected to touchscreen and battery
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> NAND could be an issue. No idea if code can still handle that. There are no boards in the framework that use that which aren't EOL
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> At least none I am aware of 😅
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> It follows "SD>USB>NAND" boot queue
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> That is good so I can run from SD without having to mask or kill something
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<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Yeah
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Kind of opposite of Rockchip
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Wait- Rockchip can't do that?
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> They go SPI, eMMC, sd,...
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Fixed by hardware
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> I wanted to buy PinePhone Pro when I'll be rich enough..
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> And it uses RK3399...
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Rk3399 Support is well-being matured but I guess desktop environment would need heavy adjustments
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Rk3399 Support is well matured but I guess desktop environment would need heavy adjustments
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Sad
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Is RK3399 entirely open-source?
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Great SoC though
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Depends. There are proprietary mali blobs for graphics available. However panfrost does reverse engineering for graphics and it is pretty nice already.
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Only graphics?
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> I'm ok with it
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> I think there are a few mode blobs needed for memory and such but that is beyond my knowledge
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Will try some RK3399-powered device, any SBC or tablet recommendations?
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Oh-
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> I have a station P1 mini PC (which is just a T Firefly ROC RK3399 PC PLUS with a nice case welded around) and a nanopi R4S. There are more great boards like the orangepi4 or the nanopi M4V2.
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> All use RK3399
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Orange Pi... already know a lot about it...
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> I remember having Orange Pi Zero
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Painful
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> A lot of proprietary blobs
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> And bloat
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> I have that one too. Great little board. Just wifi is crap
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> And vendor image too
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Armbian works great
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Every modern laptop: am I joke to you?
<scomp>
I had some problem running the orange pi 4 lts with armbian
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> I agree
<scomp>
the default trip point settings are not correct
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Intel AX2xx 💀
<scomp>
and I had to override the default dtb files
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Proprietary blobs with a lot of memory leaks
<scomp>
otherwise it would overheat and reboot
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Boards are sold as cheap as possible. So there is no money left for software development. As soon as it somehow works it gets abandoned by vendor
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Quite normal behavior
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Sad
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> You get is what you pay for 😄
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Allwinner was perfect
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Until they leaved linux-sunxi...
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Some company bought Allwinner...
<scomp>
where do you report a dtb file issue?
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Forums. Ideally you send pr if you know solution already. Highly appreciated
<scomp>
I set the trip points to 70, 85, 115 (deg celcius) and it's working normally now
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> I was thinking about buying BeagleBoard, but it's too hard to buy it in my country...
<DC-IRC>
<TuxTheArchUser> Building it myself sounds much easier
<DC-IRC>
<c0rnelius> you should really use passive cooling if ur gonna stress it and active if ur gonna stress it for long periods of time. rk3399 isn't known for being cool.
<scomp>
yeah I should probably get a heatsink
<scomp>
why is the temperature set like that if it would cause instability?
<scomp>
the trip points
<DC-IRC>
<c0rnelius> i would assume so it doesn't reboot at the default trip points but once it hits higher temps? maybe this has undesirable results on diff boards of the same SoC?
<scomp>
yeah that makes sense
<scomp>
I thought it would be pretty much the same across all the boards with the same SoC
<DC-IRC>
<c0rnelius> would be with out that patch
<DC-IRC>
<thisisart> docker doesnt start, running in debug option, i found this error:
<DC-IRC>
<thisisart> no quota support for local volumes in /var/lib/docker/volumes: fileystem does not support or has not enabled quotes
<DC-IRC>
<thisisart> how do i fix this?
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> you need to mount the filesystem with quota support
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> or PREFER_DOCKER=no
<scomp>
any single board computer recommendations for smooth 720p playback?
<scomp>
smooth 720p playback + rj45 ethernet port
<archetech>
odroid n2 does 1080p
<scomp>
how about odroid c4?
<scomp>
ideally I would want to avoid boards that require active cooling
<scomp>
so I won't have to deal with dust
<DC-IRC>
<c0rnelius> get an C4 or another S905X3. Does video pretty well.
<DC-IRC>
<c0rnelius> most of them have issues with X265 unless using Kodi.
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<DC-IRC>
<Universal> hey
<DC-IRC>
<Universal> I was thinking about installing ubuntu
<DC-IRC>
<Universal> is there a way I can install the operating system, but still have my windows 10 on my system in case I want to switch back?
<DC-IRC>
<Universal> also worried I might lose my files
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<Werner> Never played with Windows on ARM
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<Krischomat> Hey! I just installed armbian on my tinkerboard r2.0 but cannot fint a way to connect to my wifi. in the armbian-config under network there is no wifi option and /etc/network/interfaces says ```
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<Krischomat> #Network is managed by Network Manager
<DC-IRC>
<Krischomat> auto lo
<DC-IRC>
<Krischomat> iface lo inet loopback ```
<archetech>
ubu or deb
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