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<ShaneonConduitrs>
IgorPec: umm is it within the scope of armbian to support StarFive JH7110? O.o I am considering making gerbers to upgrade Olimex Teres
<ShaneonConduitrs>
riscbian!
* ShaneonConduitrs
grins
<nekomancer[m]>
ShaneonConduitrs: why not pinebook pro or thinkpad T42? that's much better cases
<tonymac32>
even benefitting from avoiding the most protectionist import taxation on the planet that won't make chips cheaper
<tonymac32>
but more available, definitely yes
<ShaneonConduitrs>
it will make them available for the projected price allegedly
<ShaneonConduitrs>
by like june
<tonymac32>
I would assume it will snow in Egypt again before that happens
<tonymac32>
:)
<tonymac32>
not that it wouldn't be awesome
<tonymac32>
but that is a huge promise on the edge of reality
<ShaneonConduitrs>
also real possibility, but NXP seems to have backlog for the BOSCH plant
<ShaneonConduitrs>
and with military and car industry under control they seem to be fabricating these already
<tonymac32>
silicon is still in scarcity, and everyone's capacity is wrecked
<tonymac32>
I would not in any way say the car industry is under control
<tonymac32>
there are 6+ month backlogs for electronics in some areas
<ShaneonConduitrs>
ye but at least enough under control for NXP to get their things fabricated it seems
<ShaneonConduitrs>
also through using that Intel plant in the US for cars
<ShaneonConduitrs>
WV allegedly has a lot of things making there atm
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<archetech>
balbes150 Test version 20230421-EDK2-EFI rock5 hmm should I try it
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<archetech>
Armbian 23.04 Distro: Ubuntu
<archetech>
23.04 (Lunar Lobster)
<archetech>
Type: Embedded-pc System: Radxa product: ROCK 5 Model B
<archetech>
Machine:
<mlu>
archetech: do you like it?
<archetech>
it boots w/o issue all I can say atm
<mlu>
nice
* mlu
is currently IRCing from a arm64 device
<archetech>
its got 5.10.110 I wanted mainline 6.3
<mlu>
archetech: have you tried the build script?
<mlu>
archetech: if you have a decent Linux machine to run it on, the armbian/build is surprisingly easy to use -- just select the options you want]
<mlu>
it just works -- easiest Linux build I've ever used in 25yr of using Linux
<archetech>
ive used it
<mlu>
that script is a thing of beauty -- if only bash scripts were easier to follow
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<DC-IRC>
<kell> Not sure where to ask, redirect me pls if some channel is better.
<DC-IRC>
<kell> I have N raspberry pi 4b, some of them are with an official PoE hats, some without. I want to maintain the same OS image on them for consistency reasons.
<DC-IRC>
<kell> For PoE hat for Ubuntu we did have custom rules put into `/etc/udev/rules.d/50-rpi-fan.rules`.
<DC-IRC>
<kell> Rules:
<DC-IRC>
<kell> ```
<DC-IRC>
<kell> SUBSYSTEM=="thermal"
<DC-IRC>
<kell> KERNEL=="thermal_zone0"
<DC-IRC>
<kell> # mid-aggressive settings
<DC-IRC>
<kell> # If the temp hits 35c, turn on the fan. Turn it off again when it goes back down to 30.
<DC-IRC>
<kell> ATTR{trip_point_3_temp}="35000"
<DC-IRC>
<kell> ATTR{trip_point_3_hyst}="5000"
<DC-IRC>
<kell> #
<DC-IRC>
<kell> # If the temp hits 40c, higher RPM.
<DC-IRC>
<kell> ATTR{trip_point_2_temp}="40000"
<DC-IRC>
<kell> ATTR{trip_point_2_hyst}="5000"
<DC-IRC>
<kell> #
<DC-IRC>
<kell> # If the temp hits 45c, higher RPM.
<DC-IRC>
<kell> ATTR{trip_point_1_temp}="45000"
<DC-IRC>
<kell> ATTR{trip_point_1_hyst}="5000"
<DC-IRC>
<kell> #
<DC-IRC>
<kell> # If the temp hits 65c, highest RPM.
<DC-IRC>
<kell> ATTR{trip_point_0_temp}="65000"
<DC-IRC>
<kell> ATTR{trip_point_0_hyst}="5000"
<DC-IRC>
<kell> ```
<DC-IRC>
<kell> So, the problem now starts when I do have this file presented on Raspi with armbian with no PoE hat, I see a lot of logs trying to find corresponding places to write this config to and finally raspi goes to an emergency mode.
<DC-IRC>
<kell> Therefore, questions:
<DC-IRC>
<kell> 1. Is there any other (more correct?) way to modify these settings on armbian?
<DC-IRC>
<kell> 2. If not, can I have this rules file presented without bringing raspi to emergency mode?
<DC-IRC>
<kell> 3. Are there any default temperature settings for PoE hat for rpi in armbian?
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<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> ShaneonConduitrs: what "<ShaneonConduitrs> pinebook pro suffers from hardware bugs
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> [9:51 PM]
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> " are you referring to? mine works flawlessly
<ShaneonConduitrs>
<DC-IRC> "<Tenkawa> " are you referring to..." <- Are you sure you want me to ruin your comfy life on pinebook pro?
<ShaneonConduitrs>
if so look in /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/
<ShaneonConduitrs>
And if you order teres-a64 from olimex then plz tell him that i influenced your decision so that he's more likely to give me pre-releases of gerbers for me to stick my greasy fingers in
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> ShaneonConduitrs: you "do" realize those are mitigateable by kernel fixes right? There is not a single piece of hardware out there that doesn't have some form of mitigation issue... even the cpu on current RK3588's have a ton
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> There is no such thing as a perfect cpu
<ShaneonConduitrs>
mitigated != fixed
<ShaneonConduitrs>
Not Affected is what you want there
<ShaneonConduitrs>
because NO. COMPROMISES. FOR. SECURITY
<ShaneonConduitrs>
StarFive JH7110 is potentially an upgrade, but the firmware used in the GPU is not acceptable atm
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> 90% of those exploits btw require... external access.. so don't allow people connecting into your machine or you be running arbitary code
<ShaneonConduitrs>
yes great idea like i ever had full control over that xD
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> Its a laptop... you better have...
<ShaneonConduitrs>
you have to be realistic with security
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> if not... you shouldn't have it
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> I control what gets turned on/off installed/removed on my laptop
<ShaneonConduitrs>
how are you going to manage a rogue application are you going to review the source code for all packages that you are installing?
<ShaneonConduitrs>
How are you going to manage 0-days, explots, etc.. in linux kernel that you have no control over and in most cases even awareness about?
<ShaneonConduitrs>
it's practically impossible
<ShaneonConduitrs>
the only good way to mitigate that is to not have these bugs to begin with
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> ShaneonConduitrs: actually I build "every" kernel that goes on my machines
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> thats how
<ShaneonConduitrs>
do you review the source code for everything
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> Yes
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> (Keep in mind I did it for a job)
<ShaneonConduitrs>
that's 560 packages on average according to the statistics by fedora which is like 400K lines of source code to read multiple times a week
<ShaneonConduitrs>
and in terms of physical access all i need to get access is 3 seconds with badUSB plugged in the port and you will never find out
<ShaneonConduitrs>
and the attacks alike are way too many to name
<DC-IRC>
<Tenkawa> "Noone" gets access to my equip...
<ShaneonConduitrs>
400K lines is probably an understatement assuming the amount of commits each software gets
<ShaneonConduitrs>
DC-IRC: yes you can either live in a dreamworld where only you are allowed to touch your laptop or be realistic to see the risk and mitigate it as much as you can
<ShaneonConduitrs>
using RK3399 is bad solution for that
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<ShaneonConduitrs>
IgorPec: It seems that the current armbian has linux 6.1.15 for the sunxi edge kernel, can you bump it to that 6.2.X?
<ShaneonConduitrs>
it's forcing downgrades on me atm @_@
<ShaneonConduitrs>
Linux kernel, armbian version 6.1.11-sunxi64 edge
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Try using armbian-config and switch to edge which is 6.2.y. current will most likely stay on 6.1.y until a new LTS kernel is released.
<ShaneonConduitrs>
DC-IRC: this is edge though
<ShaneonConduitrs>
seems that sunxi didn't get the kernle update on 6.2.x like other boards
<ShaneonConduitrs>
Linux kernel, armbian version 6.1.11-sunxi64 edge
<ShaneonConduitrs>
^^^^^
<ShaneonConduitrs>
like installing from the daily builds gives it the 6.2.X kernel but when you try to install any package it downgrades it to that 6.1.11 which has DRM issues so it gets blank display on boot xD
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> Hm indeed. Not shipped via apt (yet). Anyway you can use the build framework to build 6.2.12 kernel package
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> You can also use armbian-config to freeze firmware packages
<ShaneonConduitrs>
can i ship the new kernel somehow? i have access to attlasion
<ShaneonConduitrs>
i really need to figure out how to get my custom kernel for igor to merge for me to maintain~
<mlu>
ooo, what's on 6.2.x and 6.3.x? :D
<ShaneonConduitrs>
mlu: 6.2 has non-broken mesa for teres xD
<mlu>
ooo, what's that? graphics on sunxi?
<ShaneonConduitrs>
basically everything rendering
<ShaneonConduitrs>
xD
<mlu>
oh, teres is a sunxi board :)
<ShaneonConduitrs>
yep
<mlu>
how is it?
<ShaneonConduitrs>
IgorPec: submitted https://github.com/armbian/os/pull/46 to hotfix by using legacy kernel optionally bump the sunxi kernel on 6.2
<ShaneonConduitrs>
mlu: teres? great i do engineering and school on it :D
<ShaneonConduitrs>
very comfy to use
<mlu>
good to hear; might be getting one myself
<ShaneonConduitrs>
dew itttt
<ShaneonConduitrs>
take a look at mods too it has a bunch of them
<ShaneonConduitrs>
i would get the USB-GIGABIT mod with it
<ShaneonConduitrs>
<DC-IRC> "<Werner> You can also use..." <- is freezing the firmware going to prevent kernel downgrades?
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> I don't know, never tried that 😄
<ShaneonConduitrs>
hmmm might do some apt witchery then
<ShaneonConduitrs>
IgorPec: Btw. Is the armbian-build past the big rework yet? i would like to work on the encryption and making custom release for olimex o.o
<ShaneonConduitrs>
So like including the other olimex boards and stuff :3
<DC-IRC>
<IgorPec> <ShaneonConduitrs> Linux kernel, armbian version 6.1.11-sunxi64 edge" you are saying EDGE image that was reproduced few days ago still have old kernel?
<DC-IRC>
<IgorPec> or its downgraded when running apt update and upgrade?
<ShaneonConduitrs>
it has the edge kernel, but bcs the apt repository has the 6.1.x it forces downgrade
<IgorPec>
ahaa, i see
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> 6.1.11 is latest edge via apt
<ShaneonConduitrs>
-> can you bump the kernel for sunxi?