00:41 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Armv7?

00:41 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> The pro is v8, right? So arm64?

00:59 <WoC> seems hard to find a armhf distro

01:00 <WoC> Maybe I have to go NetBSD

01:01 <WoC> The device is Arm64, yes. but it only has 4 GB ram and I have to use armhf for steam

01:02 <WoC> so 64 bit is actually slower

01:03 <WoC> although I think it would be hard to get steam working in NetBSD...

01:03 <WoC> trying to convert a arm64 distro to armhf, but seems futile

01:06 <WoC> fails as I haven´t found how to make apt overwite files

02:11 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> agree with @rpardini, no point messing with 5.15 when 5.19 is more or less ready

02:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> WoC yeah, we put the userspace according to the SoC arch, we don't do any RPi stuff with 32-bit userlands on 64-bit hardware

02:14 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I don't quite understand what you'd gain by not going 64-bit on an RK3399, if you limit it to 32-bit you might as well get a $99 RK3288 chromebook with 4 big cores

02:26 <WoC> the device only has 4 gb ram, 32 bit would be faster and you can still use all ram

02:27 <WoC> why 64 bit when the device only has 4 gb ram?

02:27 <WoC> in 32 bit, the cache would be more efficient

02:30 <WoC> was hoping to get the box86 running, which requires armhf, and steam on that

02:31 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> ...

02:31 <WoC> afaik there is no other way to get steam on arm

02:32 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrMPvGtxzC4

02:32 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I thought Box86 ran fine on aarch64

02:32 <WoC> can´t build it on arm64

02:33 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> @IgorPec don't we have packages for that now

02:33 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> nicod does all this stuff on an Odroid N2

02:34 <WoC> i just wait then, thanks

02:39 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> check the video, I think it explains the install

08:13 <Nardol> Thanks a lot for all the answers :) so I will patient until 5.19 on current to stay on a stable environment, as playing with Odroid N2+ storage is something I prefer to keep for the moment I won't have other choice ;)

10:47 <Armbian-Discord> <r​bt> Did somebody know OneCloud?

10:48 <Armbian-Discord> <r​bt> https://github.com/hzyitc/armbian-onecloud

10:48 <ArmbianHelper> ^ GitHub - hzyitc/armbian-onecloud: Armbian for onecloud. 玩客云用armbian

13:51 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> If WoC is still reading this. You can install box86 on arm64. But it needs you to add the armhf architecture. This is a problem because it creates a dependecy hell. I wrote armbian-gaming to install it while fixing the problems. But this can always break when doing an update. Most of the times it can be fixed with aptitude. Just be careful you take the correct choice of installing the needed packages. I use it on my N2+

13:51 <Armbian-Discord> desktop with Armbian Sid 5.19. I do not advice to use this image. But it does have a bit better performance and newer packages. But Jammy 5.10 is more stable. Read armbian-gaming.sh to know what needs to happen to install box86 and wine.

19:55 <Mangix> [ 8.090431] pwm-fan j17-pwm: error -EBUSY: Could not get PWM

19:55 <Mangix> [ 8.090444] pwm-fan: probe of j17-pwm failed with error -16

19:55 <Mangix> broken kernel I guess

20:04 <Mangix> alright froze kernel upgrades

20:15 <Mangix> oh hillarious: https://github.com/armbian/build/commit/7c5d07d3044dce9fb368d70184919bbb4f654aba disables it for some unexplained reason

20:15 <ArmbianHelper> ^ Bump sunxi and disable broken patch (#4261) · armbian/build@7c5d07d · GitHub

20:19 <IgorPec> patch is broken and maintainer will enable it back when he finds time to adjust it

20:20 <IgorPec> mangix: unrelated to the error you are seeing. kernel is a loooot more complicated

20:21 <Mangix> ...

20:21 <Mangix> it's completely related to the error

20:21 <Mangix> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit/?h=v5.15.72&id=af91321b73724b316b50c01b0110375b188d33e7 disables PWM support

20:21 <ArmbianHelper> ^ kernel/git/stable/linux.git - Linux kernel stable tree

20:23 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> aha, you mean on mvebu platform?

20:23 <Mangix> yeah

20:23 <Mangix> helios4

20:23 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yes, that is expected. i just firgot to exclude this kernel update

20:24 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> armbian-config -> system -> alternative kernel , pick previous, freeze, wait