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<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> probably there is ?
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<stipa> LOL, Orange Pi 800 Personal Computer shorturl.at/egnCM
<stipa> 4 months old
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Speculative Processor Vulnerability
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> anyone interested in buying a t4+120gi nvme and hdmi _usbc to dp + hdmi to vga adapter in metal case asking 175 for all
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> in us
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> and 25 s&h
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> vcan be preload with any of the desktop builds
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> also has mini wifi antennas
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> it needs a good home
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> ping me let me know
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<stipa> ^^Orange Pi 800 (Pi 400 Clone) Full Review & Setup... Better than the Raspberry Pi?
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> it is cpu wise yes but its the same case and board . but they used a vga insted of usb-c and hdmi for dual output
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> they shold have added a usb-c for video output
<stipa> that GPIO header, aww
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<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> yeah same as the rpi it has gpio out
<stipa> it's not the same size
<stipa> and OPI has speaker builti in
<stipa> also, it has emmc
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> yeah its less pins
<stipa> yea
<stipa> that creates some extra junk
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> they went orange and not red
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> for te case
<stipa> yeah, so strange
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> they used a silcone pad in the heatsync to help with heatissues
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> but I have no intrest on it
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I still have an rpi400 sitting around
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> (then again I can't count how many rpi4's at this point either)
<archetech> rpi is for suckers ;p
<stipa> Tenkawa, how are rpis regarding to stability, does everything works?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Mine have been very stable
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> all except my first 2gb rpi4
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> and that was just the microsd metal bracket and I think that was overuse
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<stipa> what, a lose connection?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> It broke off eventually
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I use all usb's now so it didn't matter
<stipa> right, my opi lite2 got some kind of rust in the power connector and i had to desolder it...
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I have somewhere around 7-9 rpi4 class units
<stipa> first it was like power offs until i realized the connector is dead
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> possibly 10
<stipa> cool
<stipa> they're practically unobtanium now
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Yeah but I kinda moved away from rpi
<stipa> where?
<stipa> RISC-V?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Other arm platforms and risc-v
<stipa> right right
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> waiting on my risc-v actual hardware
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> doing it all in virtuals atm
<stipa> that config menu in the OPI 800 looks familiar... :/
<stipa> T​enkawa, R​ichN is also likes RISC-V
<stipa> hows the state of that? does everything works?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Yeah I know.. that's who I'm working with
<stipa> right
<stipa> SiFive
<stipa> stuff
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Yeah... trying to get me a VisionFive 2 board (pre-ordered)
<stipa> looks new
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> it is
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> it started life as a beaglev > visionfive v1 > now visionfive v2
<Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> hmm, any idea why dtc -I fs -O dts /sys/firmware/devicetree/base | grep -i rng doesn't return any rng devices on a rk3399?
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<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> Sorry Dave I cannot COmputer That
<ArmbianHelper> ^ u-boot/rk3399-u-boot.dtsi at master · u-boot/u-boot · GitHub
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<stipa> R​ichN right right
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> now if I can sell off my t4 I will be happy
<stipa> good luck with it
<stipa> i think there's a place for selling and buying boards on forum
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Sell your T4? Probably the best board you have 😆
<archetech> I would think cept for n2+
<archetech> THE CADILLAC of arm
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Backwards. The N2 is a lackluster board around a nice SoC. The Cadillac is a nice car around a crap engine
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 🙂
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> How have you been, archetech?
<archetech> good you
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Not bad. Wondering why it's been snowing😆
<archetech> ha cuz nuclear winter is coming
<archetech> let it snow!
<Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> aside from mass deployments, I feel like I'm gonna stick with Apple Silicon 😛
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> the N2/N2+ are nice... I just wish I hadn't destroyed my n2+ USB controller (I might give it another test run)
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> @dave Darwin omni 21.6.0 Darwin Kernel Version 21.6.0: Mon Aug 22 20:19:52 PDT 2022; root:xnu-8020.140.49~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T6000 arm64
<Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> [dave@dave-mac ~]$ uname -a Linux dave-mac 5.19.0-asahi-5-2-4K-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed, 31 Aug 2022 19:10:39 +0000 aarch64 GNU/Linux
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I just use virtuals for linux/win
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I have a really good deal for Parallels though
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I got a good deal on a multi year license a while back
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I really like this M1 MBP though
<archetech> wheres lamefu
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Helpful now even more that I have risc-v cross compiling setup and ready to go
<archetech> sunny and Grolsch/Jager in Deeeetroit
<archetech> GFRailroad
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Niice
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> As for Apple Silicon, I'll look at it somewhere around year 10. Otherwise it hasn't proven it's not just going to be the "Linux Toolkit for PlayStation 2"
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I see no reason to believe it will remain open for hacking once the broader community has debugged all their issues for them
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> If they decide to not continue a 40 year cultural habit, then great, but I'm not holding my breath
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> who ever said it was open?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> noone has said that yet
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Lol "open" like a screen door, not open like ethical software
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Not locked down like Fort Knox
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> And noone debugs their stuff either... its next to impossible to debug their code its locked down worse than BCM's
<archetech> above the rk3588 theres no where to go but M1/m2
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Lol yeah, reason enough to not bother
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> But their "quality" is 1000x better
<archetech> least somebody is tryin to use it for arm linux
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> "including software"
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Above rk3588 is x86. Cheap, effective, supported. I like ARM, but not enough to entertain the Apple Circus sideshow
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Or to pay 2x the performance value of something
<archetech> yeah Ive said that too
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Even using Xcode makes using Visual Studio seem just horrible
<ArmbianHelper> ^ To celebrate Armbian's new Partnership program we are doing a Giveaway! - Announcements - Armbian Community Forums
<[TheBug]> CHeck it out guys, also a new NicoD video to go with it!
<[TheBug]> It's free to enter guys and chance to win a free board
<[TheBug]> so get on it :)
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<stipa> oh cool, congrats for the partnerhip
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<Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> Does the NanoPi R4S / RK3399 have any "built-in" SPI flashes?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> @everyone Time for community chat!
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<Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> What kind of network latency do you folks see on your rockchip devices?
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<Armbian-Discord> <d​ave> I'm seeing like ~0.4-0.5ms on average, which seems insanely high
<archetech> anal retentive perf monitoring is down the hall
<Manouchehri> archetech: gee, calm down :P
<stipa> lol, half of milisecond
<stipa> that's nothing
<stipa> that's normal for ethernet
<archetech> friday gotta have some fun
<stipa> cheers
<archetech> stipa is right for once too
<stipa> i can die now peacefully
<archetech> lol
<stipa> :D
<Armbian-Discord> <c​0rnelius> or... peacefully die now.
<stipa> yeah, fuck you guys, i have a lawn to cut tomorrow, gn
<Armbian-Discord> <c​0rnelius> gn. see ya tomorrow.
<stipa> 10x
<archetech> ha another one who ran out of booze early cya
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 👀
<Armbian-Discord> <c​0rnelius> I'm getting there. Brewing coffee soon.
* archetech gives neighbors a music break
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<Manouchehri> stipa: given that it takes 1.5ms from my home to office, 0.5ms for a few feet is a lot! :P