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<Armbian-Discord> <B​oYanZh> I tried to set the env var for TEMP so that I can see it through ssh <device> bash, but for now neither of /etc/profile, /etc/environment works by appending a export TEMP="/tmp", does anyone have any idea?
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> I don't think you "export" in environment
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<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> nor in profile
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<Armbian-Discord> <B​oYanZh> yeah, but the PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin" in /etc/environment does not work either, I only get /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin in PATH
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> do you have an environment or profile in your user directory?
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<Armbian-Discord> <B​oYanZh> yes, but if I run ssh <device> bash, which do not enter an interactive shell so that profile files will not be executed, and I still can not get the full PATH
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<nekomancer[m]> B​oYanZh try to do export in .bashrc
<Armbian-Discord> <B​oYanZh> I have tried to do it but it only works for interactive shell
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<ArmbianHelper> ^ Passing an env variable via ssh - Super User
<ArmbianHelper> ^ zsh - How to pass environment variables to a new ssh-initiated login session? - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange
<nekomancer[m]> you will need to enable to set `TEMP` env var in sshd config file on target host
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<Armbian-Discord> </​dev/null> I have some trouble with external hard drives on my RockPi4 running armbian. It all startet with S.M.A.R.T not working using the UAS driver. I read online to disable the UAS driver by adding the device identifier (lsusb id) to the armbianEnv.txt under usbstoragequirks, which worked for getting the smart to run. However now the Kernel boot gets stuck at "Begin Initializing Essential Drivers ..." if the drive is
<Armbian-Discord> plugged in. Disconnecting the driver and connecting again after this step will work. I tried removing the device id again but it keeps reappearing in the file. What is going on here? Also, has anyone figured out a way to get external drives working properly from boot? It seems like Im not the only one having trouble with Seagate external drives...
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> which specific board?
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> also first thing I would do in that case is get a powered USB hub and plug the drive into it... if I had to guess your using a 5v only power supply and its not enough to provide expected power output on port... if you using QC 3.0 or PD adapter it should negotiate at least 9v is not 12-20v which will provide more power.
<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> but you left out some important information
<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> like what specific board, size of the drive, specific adapter etc
<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> so its hard to guess
<Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> (3.5", 2.5", SSD, spinning rust, etc)
<Armbian-Discord> </​dev/null> The board is a rockpi4b running Linux 5.15.74-rockchip64 kernel (armbian 22.08.1 bullseye cli image). The powersupply is a 9V quickcharge phone charger. I can confirm that the Board will boot up on my jammy desktop which is installed on the internal eMMC where I did not make any changes to the armbianEnv.txt. The drive is a 5TB usb3.0 seagate 2.5" drive (Model: STGX5000400)
<Armbian-Discord> </​dev/null> forget what i just said about the jammy desktop image. Seems like I just got lucky the one time I tried. While trying if the device is usable from boot on this image i just ran into the same problem. Also the device now appears in the armbianEnv.txt
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<e3ef13f4ff44> hello
<e3ef13f4ff44> linux 6.0 has h616 support
<e3ef13f4ff44> so will be opi zero 2 supported better than now?
<stipa> $$$
<e3ef13f4ff44> ?
<stipa> if you pay it will
<stipa> do you know to code?
<e3ef13f4ff44> yes
<stipa> then you could be the support for it
<e3ef13f4ff44> i don't have free time :P
<stipa> no one does, but you could buy it
<stipa> no one lives forever
<stipa> that chip has IOMMU, that's fancy
<stipa> does it work?
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<archetech> does it matter
<stipa> it does, it's cool to have for VMs
<stipa> not even my workstation has it
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<stipa> H6 has it fro GPU
<stipa> so, VM can use the GPU as like it's it's own
<stipa> so, if the GPU has all solved watching a video from VM would be possible with a tiny overhead
<stipa> like, if all drivers are in place
<stipa> and so on, on x85 stuff pretty much everything can be shared with VMs
<stipa> x86*
<stipa> practically it's like you're running two OSes in one machine or more with all features hardware can provide on each machine
<stipa> i mean, on each VM
<stipa> there's no feeling like a VM is some kind of a closed shell
<stipa> with some dumb ways to speak with the outer world
<archetech> running a vm on arm sbc is meh
<Armbian-Discord> </​dev/null> Yep its a power problem. I just tried with a powered usb hub and it booted up fine for the jammy image. I already suspected that I would need a powersupply if I want to use a second drive. Wouldnt have thought that it would manifest at getting stuck on boot. Thanks for the help.
<stipa> archetech: something cli is oke i guess
<stipa> like, idk, openbsd without gui
<archetech> now that some have broke the 4GB barrier I suppose its ok
<stipa> /​dev/null if it's HDD those buggers suck amp and more
<archetech> gotta use that ram for sumpthin
<stipa> up to 4 GB DDR4
<stipa> that's oke for CLI
<stipa> some zram on top of that and it's fine
<stipa> i like think from time to time to jam BSD VM somewhere in the LAN
<stipa> to do something
<archetech> Proxmox on aarch64 is available so a rock5 w/ 16gb ram would be cool
<stipa> that would be enough for some light multi OS development
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<archetech> my rk5 8gb should ship soon fr ameridroid
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<stipa> which board is that?
<archetech> rock5b
<IgorPec> e3ef13f4ff44 Armbian has all support that is comming in upstream kernel. no, it will not be better
<stipa> archetech: looks promising
<stipa> nice holes for heatsink
<stipa> not bad price for 16GB one, $219.95 USD
<archetech> I got the 50 oof
<archetech> off
<nekomancer[m]> cheater
<stipa> i see it in a 1U case and a PSU like this, i guess it fits in https://www.pcmag.com/news/hdplex-launches-worlds-smallest-atx-power-supply
<ArmbianHelper> ^ HDPLEX Launches World's Smallest ATX Power Supply | PCMag
<stipa> "uses what the company describes as "cutting-edge GaN (gallium nitride) technology""
<stipa> 170-by-50-by-25mm
<stipa> hmm, seems it does, One U is 1.75 inches (44.45mm)
<Armbian-Discord> <f​ourheads> Yeah, I have some rock 5b on the way as well. Two 16gb, one 4gb
<Armbian-Discord> <f​ourheads> Then a coupon for two more when I feel like it.
<stipa> good
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<ArmbianHelper> ^ Microsoft's 'Project Volterra' Becomes an Arm-powered mini PC with 32GB of RAM - Slashdot
<Armbian-Discord> <f​ourheads> Too bad it’s $600, or I’d buy say one and put Armbian on it. 32gb RAM
<archetech> dumb MS think peeps wil buy their stuff cuz they are MS
<stipa> probably linux peeps will
<Armbian-Discord> <f​ourheads> I mean. I don’t care if it is MS, I’d buy it at a cheaper price.
<stipa> Snapdragon sounds like closed source
<stipa> and M$ blobs for drivers
<Armbian-Discord> <f​ourheads> Hmm, yeah. In other words, a PITA to port.
<stipa> probably
<Armbian-Discord> <f​ourheads> Well, small sigh since I was t going to buy it anyway. But would love an affordable 32gb ram arm board
<stipa> yeah, sounds unreal
<archetech> that pos is bout half as fast as a used M1 Mac mini
<archetech> same price
<stipa> "We don't know exactly how fast the 8cx Gen 3 will be (Qualcomm says "up to 85 percent faster" CPU performance than the 8cx Gen 2, which would put it somewhere below but within spitting distance of modern Core i5 laptop CPU)."
<Armbian-Discord> <f​ourheads> Ok, that IS cool. Have been ignoring the M1s, on purpose so I don’t thirst for one before my beast amd64 MacBook is old enough to replace
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Microsoft’s “Project Volterra” becomes an Arm-powered mini PC with 32GB of RAM | Ars Technica
<stipa> i don't see any air holes
<stipa> they could be only on the right side
<stipa> which is unusual
<archetech> aholes $10 a piece
<stipa> M1 mini has a fan
<ArmbianHelper> ^ $219 mini PC is the best, cheapest way for devs to try Windows on ARM | Ars Technica
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<stipa> not much buzz about running linux on those
<stipa> practically none
<joekhoobyar> looking
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> Changed my nick ^^
<stipa> ok
<joekhoobyar> I mean, the specs on that thing ^^ just stink
<joekhoobyar> for the same price, even without those $50 coupons, the rock5b destroys it
<joekhoobyar> if these mini boards had better specs, sure
<stipa> yeah, it has better peripherals
<stipa> and runs linux
<stipa> hopefully
<joekhoobyar> heh
<joekhoobyar> we'll get it to work. so many of us here have hungered over and then purchased this boad.
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<archetech> icecreamman is doin some good work on the gpu fortunatly
<archetech> he got gnome kde etc working on wayland
<archetech> ie mesa
<archetech> can only get better
<joekhoobyar> anybody considering picking up a Radxa CM3 when they finally hit distributors? (I'm in the US)
<joekhoobyar> wow, Okdo has the 2gb/16gb one already
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<stipa> idk why M1 price still holds, isn't there M2 on the market?
<stipa> there should be a bunch of used ones for sale
<stipa> they sell for like, for the price of new one
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> because nothing in technology right now is dropping price due to the supply chain/parts/logistics continued issues
<stipa> maybe i'm just imagining, buti think i saw M2 on preorder or smthn
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Amazon.com: 2022 Apple MacBook Air Laptop with M2 chip: 13.6-inch Liquid Retina Display, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD Storage, Backlit Keyboard, 1080p FaceTime HD Camera. Works with iPhone and iPad; Midnight : Electronics
<stipa> that one costs like new M1
<stipa> :/
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<archetech> ya its a stroke of marketing genius those brainy rats
<stipa> T​enkawa right, but no one will buy used M1 for $1k if there is new M2 for $1100
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<archetech> M2 mini be out in a month and M1's will drop
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> new M1 here is only 1K and people "will" buy that from Apple vs Amazon
<archetech> used M1 is ~ 500 ebay us
<archetech> been that for ever
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I won't touch ebay
<archetech> fine pay retail
<stipa> non working one is $500
<stipa> working $1k + shipping
<archetech> not in us
<stipa> new M1 air in Croatia is around $1200
<stipa> maybe 8GB of ram isn't that much
<stipa> for today standards
<stipa> that's like a few browser tabs
<stipa> ^^ M1 Linux Finally Has Working GPU Drivers
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