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<JaMa> yes, so 18 will I guess switch from active LTS to just "maintenance" until EOL in 2025-04
<moto-timo> well, kirkstone is still NodeJS 16... so I suppose we'll be in a better place for the next YP LTS with 20
<JaMa> so nodejs-20 will be better option for scarthgap LTS until 2028
<JaMa> if we manage this io_uring issue somehow
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* moto-timo gives customers the news
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<LetoThe2nd> yo dudX
<mckoan> LetoThe2nd: hi
<alessioigor> hi all
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<LetoThe2nd> stupid question! whats the canonical way to handle d.getVar if its not certain that the variable is actually assigned at all?
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<rburton> LetoThe2nd: you mean you want to tell the difference between FOO not being assigned, and FOO=""?
<rburton> i think you get None if its not set at all
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<landgraf> LetoThe2nd: if d.getVar("MYVAR") is not None:
<LetoThe2nd> rburton: landgraf : thx
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<JaMa> I have a test case for io_uring writev(), but I have to be doing something differently than libuv, because I'm passing fd of the output file and this openat2() is intercepted by pseudo and all works fine
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<gmorell> ~
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<moto-timo> rburton: 'vala' is in PACKAGECONFIG by default for networkmanager, but this fails because of the 'enable_introspection' test https://github.com/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/blob/1.44.0/meson.build#L827
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<moto-timo> rburton: so, I have a WIP PACKAGECONFIG['introspection'] to add that, but then it is stumbling to find Gio-2.0.gir
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<JaMa> there was also https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/102657 and neither was needed in the end for master back then IIRC
<moto-timo> JaMa: ok, I don't think we had gobject-introspection-data class in kirkstone... I'm trying master build now to see if it can build with 'vala'
<JaMa> or maybe it's still needed, but I've already added SKIP_RECIPE for it as well
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<Rich_1234> Does "bitbake -c clean -f target" force me to re download source on "bitbake target"? if not how do I force the source re-download
<moto-timo> JaMa: both those threads look promising. thank you for remembering
<moto-timo> Rich_1234: -c clean only cleans the build
<Rich_1234> right, so is there any easy way to clear the source?
<Rich_1234> oh, it looks like cleanall is what I need
<moto-timo> Rich_1234: cleanall also clears sstate. you can also do 'bitbake -C fetch target". The capital C says start with task
<Rich_1234> moto-timo alright, cheers
<rburton> khem: erm your clang upgrade blows up really badly
<rburton> hm no its not that
<rburton> wtf
<moto-timo> cursed
<rburton> ooh
<rburton> RP: master's shared-mime-info fails with clang :(
<Saur> Rich_1234: "clean" removes the build directory, "cleansstate" removes any sstate-cache files plus what "clean" does, and "cleanall" removes any downloaded files plus what "cleansstate" does.
<rburton> RP: i'm aware that its my fault the AB didn't catch that
<Rich_1234> Saur good to know, thanks
<Chocky> -c cleanmyofficeplease
<JaMa> it only cooks, for cleaning you need something else
<RP> rburton: right, we don't test that currently so I couldn't have known
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<rburton> RP: i should enable it for the runs even if we ignore layer compat for now
<Chocky> dammit. Back to OpenWrt's maid.
<moto-timo> JaMa: rburton: seems the missing key piece was gobject-introspection-data in DISTRO_FEATURES, at least for kirkstone. Still waiting on the master build to finish.
<rburton> ah yeah you'll need that :)
<rburton> thats why i made it refuse to build if you had that off in master
<Chocky> OpenWrt does quilting at least, take that.
<moto-timo> so the recipe should probably have a DISTRO_FEATURES check
<moto-timo> I had backported the entire networkmanager_1.44.0.bb to kirkstone and that didn't build either, so still poking to stop user from shooting self in foot
<moto-timo> I'll have to wait for the master build to finish
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<moto-timo> networkmanager ("master") built ok
<moto-timo> DISTRO_FEATURES="acl alsa bluetooth debuginfod ext2 ipv4 ipv6 pcmcia usbgadget usbhost wifi xattr nfs zeroconf pci 3g nfc x11 vfat seccomp opengl ptest multiarch wayland vulkan sysvinit"
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<vmeson> moto-timo: JaMa: nodejs versions were a problem in older branches but I think we're in better shape now that Archana is doing some work to maintain and upgrade it.
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<moto-timo> vmeson: we'll see whether this will be good ammunition to get folks to move to newer NodeJS and newer YP LTS or not. As you know, customers come up with all kinds of reasons to pin software at old versions. But having the NodeJS LTS that will survive (most of) the YP LTS is a GoodThingTM.
<moto-timo> I could argue that a NodeJS 18 version could stay around in nanbield, but I have no products affecfted by it. It won't impact anything until the next YP LTS release.
<vmeson> moto-timo: yep, it's a struggle for some customers to keep up. We tried to help with that but there wasn't sufficient interest (https://linuxgizmos.com/wind-river-linux-adds-ci-cd-support-with-more-frequent-releases/ )
<moto-timo> vmeson: yes, that was a good idea... too bad
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<vmeson> The WR Linux CI/CD tldr is that it was our product rebased to upstream master branches and run through QA and releaased once a month.
<JaMa> vmeson: what is your CI/CD testing with nodejs that it didn't trigger the io_uring issue?
<vmeson> JaMa: I'm going to defer that to Archana but we only rebase our product once a week or so and that may explain the gap.
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<vmeson> for our internal builds
<JaMa> I'm just wondering if the libuv is used everywhere for writting the files or if it's more specific for webpack use
<vmeson> JaMa: I don't see anything newer than nodejs_18.16.0 ... Houston, we may have a problem with out CI/CD.
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<vmeson> JaMa: our CI is building node-v20.5.1 -- meta-oe master has nodejs_20.8.1
<vmeson> I dream of having the people and support to continually build master ... ( or is that a nightmare! )
* vmeson actually reads JaMa https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/105583 and sees that we should probably be tripping over the problems as well.
<vmeson> JaMa: our sstate-cache CI/CD coverage is clearly lacking. This error showcases why it's important to improve our pipeline.
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<JaMa> vmeson: or read reports on wr patches on ML :)
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* RP stops rc2 and tries rc3
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* RP cancels rc3 since we have more space problems causing failures :(
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<khem> RP: latest master merge, I am seeing {'glib-networking': ['glib-networking/connection-openssl.test']}
<khem> consistently
<khem> failinh
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