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<khem> abelloni: I see that you have staged https://patchwork.yoctoproject.org/project/oe-core/patch/20230710171504.867425-1-alexander.sverdlin@siemens.com/ for master accidentally in your branch
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<mckoan> good morning
<LetoThe2nd> yo dudX
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<abelloni> khem: well, it was sent for master
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<adrianf> rber|res: Here are some patches to workaround the cve database download issues. https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/184115, https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/184116. Please let us know if it also helps for you.
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<rburton> i can confirm the patches work for me. I get about five notes of 503 in the logs but it gets there in the end
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<RobertBerger> @adrianf: thanks, I'll give it a try
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<RobertBerger> Is there an explanation why on master OLDEST_KERNEL="5.15" and SDK_OLDEST_KERNEL="3.2.0"? What does this mean?
<amsobr> Hey all, just joined the meeting. António here
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<RobertBerger> @rburton: yes I know, but SDK_OLDEST_KERNEL does not seem to be explained. I found this, which helps a bit more: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/next/migration-guides/migration-4.3.html#supported-kernel-versions
<rburton> yes, the SDK variation needs documenting, but it's the same idea just for the sdk not the target
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<RobertBerger> @rburton It does not make much sense to be different values for both in most cases, but the migration-guides seem to kind of explain it. Like by default bitbake with >5.15 but build with your SDK whatever version down to 3.2.
<rburton> RobertBerger: sure it makes sense: you might want to have a sdk that runs on old rhel but know your target kernels are 6.x
<RobertBerger> Ah the SDK value has to do with the host Linux kernel?
<rburton> we bump the target minimum regularly as it means glibc can optimise itself for newer kernels
<rburton> yeah its the glibc in nativesdk
<RobertBerger> OK - now it makes sense
<RobertBerger> Thanks!
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<rburton> JaMa: looks like your image name thing broke bundled initramfs
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<yudjinn[m]> I have TEST_VERSION ?= "1.2" in my bblayers.conf; is there any way to manually override that at build time? I know with machine you can just MACHINE=machine bitbake core-image... but TEST_VERSION="1.3" bitbake.. doesnt seem to work
<rburton> bitbake cleans the environment and only allows a few environment variables through
<rburton> see BB_ENV_PASSTHROUGH
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<yudjinn[m]> ahh, so you have to set BB_ENV_PASSTHROUGH_ADDITIONS
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<aak-rookie> i have an engine project in yocto. there are 3 different projects coming out of this engine. project1, project2, project3. i only have machine configuration for project1 that engine generates. i plan to create machinename-project1.conf, machinename-project2.conf, machinename-project3.conf. also, thinking of defining the common things in
<aak-rookie> "default-common-settings.inc" file.  i will include this file on machine configs. would such a structure have a problem? does it make sense? do you have any suggestions? meanwhile, the machine will be the same. for example, let's say cm4.
<aak-rookie> specific distro, machine features or kernel configurations can be made for projects.
<khem> aak-rookie: what other differences are there in project ?
<khem> are they distro level policy changes
<khem> or just something you can manage at image level
<aak-rookie> i can say image level.
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<khem> in that case perhaps you can just have 3 different images for same distro and machine
<khem> aak-rookie: yoe distro uses concept of projects too see https://github.com/YoeDistro/yoe-distro/tree/master/sources/meta-yoe/conf/projects
<khem> something you might want to look at
<aak-rookie> there may be changes in patches, machine, deployment properties. does it still solve 3 different images?
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<aak-rookie> khem the way, i was trying to reach you regarding meta-coral. still can't get build but because of imx-atf. https://github.com/Freescale/meta-freescale/issues/1572
<aak-rookie> by the way*
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<khem> hmm if you have project based patches that might be a problem
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<aak-rookie> for example, maybe need to setgpio pins for project2 like this:
<aak-rookie> gpio=17=op,dl \n\
<aak-rookie> gpio=22=op,dl \n\
<aak-rookie> gpio=5=op,dl,pd \n\
<aak-rookie> gpio=6=op,dl,pd \n\
<aak-rookie> that's why i thought it would make more sense to create machine confs.
<aak-rookie> or no need touchscreen,bluetooth etc.
<khem> how will you set this up ? via runtime conf or rootfs time tweak ?
<aak-rookie> i'm using meta-raspberrypi. it is sufficient to add it to the RPI_EXTRA_CONFIG variable in the machine configuration. does it "rootfs time tweak" concept? i'm a rookie, i may not know all the concepts exactly. :D
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<khem> that affects rpi-config package particularly and is build time value
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<khem> rburton: SVE and SVE2 should perhaps be added to aarch64 tunable options
<khem> similar to crypto and crc
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<aak-rookie> lets say i have mymachine.conf and includes:
<aak-rookie> MACHINEOVERRIDES = "myallmachines:raspberrypi4:${MACHINE}"
<aak-rookie> i want to check like this: "${@bb.utils.contains("MACHINE", "myallmachines", "raspicam", "", d)}" but it doesnt work, checked with "bitbake -e".
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<cambrian_invader> shouldn't you check MACHINEOVERRIDES?
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<aak-rookie> i need some sleep... u are right, im fool.
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<aak-rookie> i thought it would work but it still didn't. bitbake -e returns MACHINEOVERRIDES="rpi:armv7ve:myallmachines:raspberrypi4:mymachine". i guess it can't find it because there isn't a single value.
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<rburton> khem: tell jon he keeps on threatening to rewrite the tunes :)
<khem> yeah, I am not sure whats minimum arch for sve and sve2
<khem> I guess v8.2 for sve and v9 for sve2 ?
<rburton> sounds about right
<khem> can it exist without crypto ?
<rburton> no idea technically, but realistically i doubt you'll get sve but no crypto
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<khem> I agree
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<khem> rburton: jonmason sent a patchset to add sve to tunes takes a look
<jonmason> I have some tunes patches I'm working on
<jonmason> but honestly, the entire thing needs to be rewritten. there has to be a smarter way than adding every permutation
<khem> yes I agree
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<khem> I personally think these variants are distractions more than a help
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<khem> perhaps there are targetted pieces which could benefit from super duper extra ISA
<khem> but some which control ABI I needed
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<jonmason> I was just doing the generic and the model specifics, no features
<jonmason> not fully baked, but should probably maybe work
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<RP> jonmason: I'm not sure what you'd rewrite to. The plan was only to add things actually useful in the wild
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