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<kanavin> halstead, thanks :)
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<vladest> hello
<vladest> any1 can help me with live555 library not appeared in final image , nor sdk image. added live555 to IMAGE_INSTALL_append but no luck
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<kanavin> RP: even before I login to check, I'm fairly certain it's incorrect permissions on the new debian 11 worker
<kanavin> qemu-system-x86_64: egl: no drm render node available
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<kanavin> crw-rw---- 1 root render 226, 128 Oct 9 11:14 renderD128
<kanavin> pokybuild@debian11-ty-1:~$ groups
<kanavin> pokybuild video kvm
<kanavin> halstead, ^^^
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<halstead> Not correct.
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<halstead> kanavin: The groups are fixed. The config module for this is coming together. Different names for the render group depending on distro and version. More so than most.
<halstead> kanavin: I've restarted the worker so the new group should be picked up.
<halstead> kanavin: Thanks for keeping on eye on the new worker issues. It's been really helpful.
<kanavin> halstead, thanks again
<kanavin> RP: my mass of patches got a green pass \0/ https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/83/builds/2731
<kanavin> I'll send in some
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<RP> kanavin: hopefully we'll get the release built soon and then I can think about them :)
<kanavin> RP: I sent the rust-related ones now
<RP> kanavin: I just saw the batch. You managed to sort the target issue?
<RP> kanavin: nice :)
<RP> that worries me a lot less
<kanavin> RP: Alex pushes things forwards disregarding 'old cruft', RP applies caution to that. That arrangement has been working well for a while :)
<kanavin> I'd hope
<RP> kanavin: right. I just sometimes worry about getting a reputation for being stuck in the past :)
<kanavin> RP: if we replace sato with phosh and mips with risc-v after the next LTS is out, I think that argument will weaken considerably :)
<kanavin> moto-timo says phosh is rather pretty to look at
<RP> Would be nice. Lets see how things work out. We need risc-v to join the project really
<kanavin> I think mips is now completely legacy?
<RP> kanavin: ppc 32 bit is likely my first target
<RP> kanavin: not sure if you noticed how builds are now running more quickly thanks to better sstate reuse
<RP> 40 mins and it has completed over half the targets
<kanavin> RP: I did notice that selftests and reproducible stuff no longer takes hours and hours and hours, yes
<RP> kanavin: they still can, it depends on sstate being present but I think reuse is higher
<kanavin> sstate reuse is brittle. One innocent looking change at the wrong place, and you'll break it. That happened to rust-native (which is a heavy item to build, taking 15 minutes) which became target dependent without any warnings, but I noticed and fixed it.
<kanavin> I had put ABIEXTENSION getter in the wrong place there.
<kanavin> moved it to where only rust-cross has it, but not rust-native.
<moto-timo> Right now I only have Terminal on phosh, so it would be nice to have more of the apps sato has.
<moto-timo> And the rust improvements are much appreciated kanavin
<kanavin> moto-timo, epiphany and puzzles perhaps?
<moto-timo> kanavin: I haven’t even tried, so yes
<kanavin> I think with the increase in cpu cores recently we should now be able to afford webkit in a UI image
<kanavin> moto-timo, they're actually necessary too, as without them python 3.10 can't happen
<kanavin> (via the need to updated mozjs, which is needed by polkit)
<moto-timo> Tangled woven web
<kanavin> btw distutils is now deprecated and will be gone in two years
<RP> kanavin: we do have some great ways of testing sstate with the sigs detection but it really needs to widen it's coverage
<kanavin> RP: right, I think rust-native probably isn't currently there
<kanavin> but it can be now, via librsvg
<RP> kanavin: it should be scanning world but probably doesn't vary the right thing
<RP> I guess you're right, native isn't in world
<kanavin> RP: bitbake("core-image-weston -S none")
<kanavin> more images could be added for sure (as long as its not sato something)
<RP> kanavin: we should perhaps just use world there...
<kanavin> def test_sstate_32_64_same_hash(self):
<kanavin> """
<kanavin> build machines and running a builds, override the variables calling uname()
<kanavin> they're built on a 32 or 64 bit system. Rather than requiring two different
<kanavin> The sstate checksums for both native and target should not vary whether
<kanavin> manually and check using bitbake -S.
<kanavin> """
<kanavin> that's the test I think?
<RP> kanavin: there are a few testing for different sstate issues, but yes
<RP> I tried to teach the tests the basics rather than finding out too late there were problems
<kanavin> yeah, that one changes BUILD_ARCH
<kanavin> which is not quite what's needed
<kanavin> MACHINE needs to change completely, and then only -native should be checked
<RP> kanavin: I think there are other tests that do that
<kanavin> RP: just looking what they are, I don't think there's a test for that exactly
<kanavin> meta/lib/oeqa/selftest/cases/sstatetests.py
<kanavin> I wonder how can one generate the world of -native for that, there's really no need to build target world
<moto-timo> Sadly the upstream Python folks think wheels are all we need and build in a container. So distutils, which has worked well for our use case does not fit theirs.
<kanavin> distutils is completely going away in two years
<kanavin> it's deprecated and throws warnings in py 3.10
<kanavin> we better start eliminating all uses of it
<moto-timo> Yep. LeSIGH.
<kanavin> I think they're going to have a mini 2->3 on their hands with it.
<RP> kanavin: none of those tests build things, they just generate signatures
<kanavin> RP: right
<RP> kanavin: I'd have to think about that but tomorrow ;-)
<kanavin> RP: cheers
<moto-timo> RP: indeed. Many module providers don’t want to change
<RP> JPEW: the patch in master-next seems to be working as we need. I might try and merge something with a written up commit message tomorrow and get a release build going
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<JPEW> RP: Very good
* moto-timo starts a phosh build with epiphany and puzzles
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