13:17 <Lemanr> need help, ive been at this for too many hours, simply changing keyboard layout to dvorak for user with wayland. every file and variable i can think of is just ignored. What is the recomended way to do this?

13:18 <Lemanr> this is on arch linux

13:32 <Lemanr> found keyboard-layout [-rules rules] [-model model] [-variant variant] , hoping its as simple as typing this in config

13:32 <n0r> So you tried `XKB_DEFAULT_LAYOUT="us(dvorak)" river` ?

13:33 <Lemanr> not with the final 'river', doing now

13:34 <n0r> I mean starting river this way in the first place.

13:41 <Lemanr> so running `XKB_DEFAULT_LAYOUT=us"(dvorak)" | river` works but if anyone uses arch here, what file can I use to change this variable so I can launch river normally? It seems as though I can't do this in the init file it'self or xinit or in profile.d

13:45 <Lemanr> maybe solved, logging out to be sure

13:49 <Lemanr> nope, .profile also ignored, searching for what file exactly is export changing

13:55 <Lemanr> etc/environment also ignored

14:00 <Lemanr> finally found it, apparently .bash_profile allowed me to make the changes

14:02 <Lemanr> deleting all other changes then will propose an addition to the documents to mention .bash_profile for arch users, changing keyboard layout should never be this hard (not just a river issue, seems to be wayland in general imo)

14:03 <Lemanr> *delete all other changes then test then will.....

14:09 <Lemanr> sweet, so changing ~./.bash_profile worked. testing if I have to have a separate bash_profile for root as well (I think I do)

14:33 <Lemanr> k submitted pull request. Feel free to change the wording, location, etc. I think the location for the proposed change is logical as people will probably learn that in wayland you change layout usually by the compositor's config file so the alternative should be mentioned where the 'official' instruction is.

14:34 <Lemanr> buh bye all

14:35 <Lemanr> oh, i'm a moron so I didn't give a more detailed title. it is  Update riverctl.1.scd #752

14:35 <Lemanr> ok now buh bye lol

15:56 <scorpion2185[m]> is scratchpad a word for console?

16:52 <n0r> No. Scratchpad is an additional tag or workspace, where any window can go, not just consoles. It has a special name, because it is used differently from usual workspaces/tags, because it is not switched to, but only toggled in and out of sight.

16:57 <n0r> Sway has extra functionality for this, since it can only show one workspace per monitor. The scratchpad contains floating windows which can be toggled in and out on any workspace. With rivers tag system, the concept of a scratchpad is kinda obsolete, since any tag can be used like that. But the wiki entry essentialy describes how to make a tag behave more similar to sways scratchpad concept by not providing a keybinding to only show the scratchpad,

16:57 <n0r> and by avoiding new windows to belong to a currently active scratchpad-y tag.

17:18 <ifreund> Ok, there are no more release blockers on my list :)

17:19 <ifreund> Unless someone reports any high priority new issues today I'll tag 0.2.0 this evening

17:22 <ifreund> actually, I think I'll make spawn-tagmask global as well.

17:22 <dnkl> 🎉

17:33 <tleydxdy[m]> oh no, now I have to think up some new pr

18:37 <scorpion2185[m]> n0r: ah thanks

18:39 <scorpion2185[m]> I guess I can another scrathpad to make a drop-down terminal then

18:39 <scorpion2185[m]> can make

18:41 <scorpion2185[m]> is normal when you snap views with riverctl that they go beyond the screen?

18:48 <leon-p> scorpion2185[m]: nope, they should go against the output edge and no further.

18:49 <leon-p> does this happen with all views or just some certain ones?

18:54 <scorpion2185[m]> all

18:59 <leon-p> weird