ifreund changed the topic of #river to: river - a dynamic tiling wayland compositor || https://github.com/riverwm/river || channel logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/river/
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<ifreund> p00f1: hmm, any chance you could try with a debug build of waylock? Or do you have a coredump that could be used to get a stack trace of that segfault?
<p00f1> do you need it from a debug build?
<ifreund> p00f1: a debug build might give a bit more info
<ifreund> the crash seems to be in PAM code though at first glance, perhaps related to pam_systemd_home which I'm certainly not usingf
<ifreund> I've got a meeting in a few minutes though so I'll have to look back later
<ifreund> does it happen with swaylock too? would be interesting to compare the PAM code and see what waylock does differently if not
<p00f1> doesn't happen with swaylock (it gets stuck sometimes but doesnt crash)
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<p00f1> made a debug build
<p00f1> core file ^^
<p00f1> i'll open an issue if you can't open this link from IRC
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<sparogy> hello all, setting up river for the first time
<sparogy> I'm trying to start some systemd user units within the init script, and was wondering what the difference was between exec and riverctl spawn
<sparogy> and (eventually) why my units don't seem to be starting
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<ifreund> sparogy: exec is a (POSIX) shell command that replaces the current process
<LemanR> quick Q&A. So I FINALLY understand how tags work. Are you all open to a rewrite of the tags management section on the github? I think I know a better way to explain the tag system. Wont be able to get to it until about a week or two
<ifreund> p00f1: thanks for the traces, I'll dig in further when I find the time
<ifreund> LemanR: feel free to give it a try, I'd recommend sharing a gist here to get feedback before replacing it entirely though
<ifreund> I assume you mean on the wiki?
<ifreund> if you mean for the man page just send a PR
<sparogy> ifreund: would I be better off just calling a bare 'systemctl start --user blah' then?
<LemanR> ifreund one place would be the github/riverctl section on tag manegement. Ill paste an article that I'd pretty much base it on...or just reference the link although I don't know the reputation of this site. One sec
<ifreund> sparogy: probably, it's just a shell script
<sparogy> ah, perfect thanks!
<LemanR> ifreund had to find it but he has a 'tags' section and explains it very well https://leon_plickat.srht.site/blog/setting-up-river-010/article.html
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<novakane> LemanR: well the reputation is pretty good since leon-p is a river maintener :D
<novakane> isn't the link already in the wiki?
<novakane> ah no that the article about river layout protocol
<LemanR> novakane lol well someone should use his way of explaining tags and put that on the github tag management section (I think it's is riverctl.1.scd). I felt that the wording on his site was better and made tags make sense for me.
<LemanR> leon-p btw thanks for your tag section on your site lol
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<novakane> a link in the wiki in the how tags works could be enough maybe
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<leon-p> I think I actually wrote the tags sectin in the wiki originally as well :P
<novakane> well you're allowed to put a link to your blog then :P
<leon-p> my blog is CC anyway, so feel free to copy
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<ayushnix> leon-p: offtopic but is there are reason why you've used font-weight: 350 on your site?
<leon-p> yes, looks better
<ayushnix> on which font?
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<leon-p> on the one I use. I don't specify a specific font in the CSS, so it uses the users "sans" font. Whether it looks good therefore depends on the skill of the font designers (fun fact: most fonts suck)
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<NickH> sparogy: If you wan't to get even fancier with systemd you can make a target that triggers all the units you want to start when running river.
<NickH> I have a river-session.target unit that I start in my river init. And my user units that I want started have a WantedBy=river-session.target in their "[Install]" section.