ifreund changed the topic of #river to: river - a dynamic tiling wayland compositor || https://github.com/ifreund/river || channel logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/river/
<ecocode_> elshize: understandable, but I just love them too much ;)
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<pkap> Hi, I would like to try out yambar for river. Would anybody here share their experience with yambar or even their config files?
<travankor> yambar has an example config file that you could use
<travankor> just replace the sway section with the river module
<pkap> Ok, I try to start out with the example :)
<pkap> Ok, there is a dedicated manpage for yambar-river, I didn't find that at first.
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<pkap> I have the first nine tags mapped on q-o instead of 1-9. Does anybody know if this can be represented by with yambar?
<pkap> Sorry if this question is to specific for this channel.
<pkap> Maybe I should try out waybar.
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<dnkl> pkap: yambar doesn't name the tags. You do, in the config
<dnkl> They still have numeric ids though. But you choose how they are presented on the bar
<pkap> The representation in the example is: ```string: text: "{id}"``. I don't know how replace {id} here with the corresponding letter.
<pkap> I tried using by using "map" to catch the id, but no success :/
<pkap> ```map: tag: 1``` is what I tried and then ```string: text: q``. This is what I tried. I don't know if this is the right approach.
<dnkl> Check out the map near the top
<dnkl> It maps 1..2 to icons. Replace the icons with q..o
<pkap> Ah nice, thank you! That is a far better starting point than the example in the manpage :)
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<dnkl> pkap: yeah, I've been meaning to update the example config, but haven't gotten around to it...
<pkap> Thanks again, dnkl! I configred the river tags to my liking and it looks great so far. Yambar is a nice piece of Software.
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<Guest452> Ey guys. Just curious. Where are you running river? What is the most stable distro right now?
<pkap> My guess is that most people are on Archlinux. But you need to compile most stuff by yourself anyway, so probably it doesn't matter too much.
<Guest452> No package on AUR?
<pkap> Sure there is an AUR packages
<Guest452> Too outdated then? Why most stuff has to be compiled?
<pkap> AUR is compiling yourself
<Guest452> Oh, got it
<pkap> Just with some convenience
<Guest452> Yeah yeah, got it. Thanks ;)
<pkap> But I would be interested if somebody uses river on debian or Ubuntu.
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<Guest452> Btw, how do you handle notifications in river?
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<dnkl> Guest452: I use fnott. Others use mako I think
<dagle> dunst is pretty popular too.
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<pkap> Guest452: If you're just starting with river you can check out the github wiki. Als
<pkap> I recently started with river as main desktop and the wiki got me running mostly.
<pkap> And I can recommend the stacktile layout because it has per tag layouts but is still very simple.
<pkap> (Simple in terms of configuration)
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<Guest65> so uhm... somebody tell me: why should i use riverwm?
<leon-p> Guest65: Do you like tiling? Deterministic, automatic tiling to be precise? Then you should use river. If not, then use something else.
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<Nulo> You can also use it as floating :P
<Nulo> It seems particularly good at both
<Guest65> leon-p i use sway so i am used to automatic tiling, are there major differences except for the obvious change of config syntax?
<Nulo> Guest65, sway is not automatic tiling
<Guest65> well, with custom scripts
<Nulo> Fair enough. River (by default, through rivertile) enforces a layout
<Nulo> For me, as a previous Sway/i3wm user, I don't think much about how to order my windows
<Nulo> And I have no split hell as I did kind of often in Sway
<Nulo> If you have free time, try it out. Otherwise.. just stay with Sway :)
<pkap> Guest65: I used i3 for a year and then switched to a dynamic tiling wm. It is easier IMO. Because the layout is given you don't have to spend time to "create" the layout as a tree.
<leon-p> also layouts are generated by external programs. So you can write your own layouts very easiely
<pkap> The main difference is the underlying data structure for the windows. A tree for sway/i3 and a stack for river.
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<pkap> Hey, what do you guys use for night display adjustment. It seems to me their is no clear "successor" to redshift on X.
<pkap> Ah it's in the wiki
<pkap> Sorry. Wl-sunset from the wiki. Don't know how I missed that.X)
<bfiedler> I use gammastep, it's a drop-in replacement for redshift for me
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<pkap> Wlsunset looks like a neat, small program, but gammastep is in the Arch Linux Community Repo. That's a tough decision :D
<bfiedler> use what arch packages. it's less of a hassle
<pkap> bfiedler: Yeah that's what I usually to as well :)
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<talismanick> leon-p: With Emacs, I only use frames (frames-only-mode)
<talismanick> Chained keychord sequences would be nice, but I'm happy with bspwm-like keypresses - a window manager's a window manager, not Emacs itself
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<pkap> Yesterday ecocode_ pointed out that key sequences are already possible with custom modes. Sounds like a funny hack :D
<pkap> This should work with both emacs- and vimlike sequences.
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