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<whitequark[cis]> <Wanda[cis]> "ice65 seems to have a proper..." <- it has a JTAG on some "NC" balls on SB branded hx8k
<Wanda[cis]> huh.
<Wanda[cis]> my own bet would have been that actually there are 4 normal IOBs that magically transform to TDI/TMS/TCK/TDO if you ever drive TRST_B high
<Wanda[cis]> ... I even have a guess as to which IOBs that would be
<whitequark[cis]> wait, is that so?
<whitequark[cis]> because i have one of those HX8K boards with the sole specific purpose of testing this
<Wanda[cis]> well, I don't really have a way of checking it myself
<Wanda[cis]> it was just my guess from looking at how pinouts differ between ice65 and ice40
<Wanda[cis]> and noting that the ice65 JTAG pins correspond to ice40 IOBs; specifically the bottom-most IOBs of bank 1 which is exactly where I'd expect JTAG to be
<Wanda[cis]> <whitequark[cis]> "because i have one of those HX8K..." <- ... I'd be very interested in poking at that board next time I'm at your place
<whitequark[cis]> can you check if those balls are connected anywhere on the hx8k-b-evn?
<whitequark[cis]> if not we'll have to design a new board
<Wanda[cis]> sure; later though, have to run tn
<Wanda[cis]> s/tn/rn/
<Wanda[cis]> nope; only 2 out of 4 are connected
<Wanda[cis]> it should be R14 R15 P14 P15 in CT256 package AFAICT
<Wanda[cis]> oh, by the way, would that happen to be an official board?
<Wanda[cis]> because I find it very interesting that these 5 pins in particular are grouped in the same place in the datasheet
<Wanda[cis]> er schematic not datasheet
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<whitequark[cis]> <Wanda[cis]> "oh, by the way, would that..." <- it is official
<whitequark[cis]> are P15 and R15 by any chance at the edge
<Wanda[cis]> no, that'd be P16 and R16
<whitequark[cis]> mkay. so it needs to be removed and reballed
<Wanda[cis]> also, P14 and R14 are the ones we'd actually have to get at
<whitequark[cis]> i can ask Maya to design a replacement carrier board
<whitequark[cis]> do you have any other particular pins you want to get at?
<Wanda[cis]> hm
<Wanda[cis]> these 5 + SPI + CBSEL for good measure + the PLL ones?
<Wanda[cis]> nothing else comes to mind
<whitequark[cis]> what was CBSEL again?
<whitequark[cis]> (if you give me a list of balls that would be ideal)
<Wanda[cis]> obscure dual-function pins for selecting one of four images in SPI flash
<Wanda[cis]> R14 R15 P14 P15 N14 (likely dual IOB/JTAG + TRST_B), P11 P12 R11 R12 (SPI), K11 P13 (CBSEL), R9 K9 C8 F7 (PLL)
<Wanda[cis]> * R14 R15 P14 P15 N14 (likely dual IOB/JTAG + TRST_B), P11 P12 R11 R12 (SPI), K11 P13 (CBSEL), R9 K9 C8 F7 (PLL), M10 N11 (CDONE + CRESET_B)
<whitequark[cis]> thanks
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