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<arno11> sicelo: it is not just your device
<arno11> freemangordon: could gps be the culprit for hsm bug ?
<arno11> on my n900 i killall hsm on every boot to be able to use it properly. then if i start gps, the icon works for few seconds then hsm crashes
<arno11> if i don't kill hsm before starting gps, no gps icon like sicelo's device
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<sicelo> mmm, let me see if that makes difference for me too ...
<sicelo> mmm, ust by doing that, got the brightness control status menu item and wireguard to show. they haven't been showing up (i even forgot they were installed)
<sicelo> testing gps now
<sicelo> indeed ... icon showed up immediately
<sicelo> arno11: is there a github issue for this? i guess tricky part now will be to find the offending plugin ... of the manually installed ones, i only have the brightness control and wireguard, afaict. so maybe one of the two?
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<arno11> sicelo: i think there is already a github issue (not sure)
<arno11> only brightness on my device
<arno11> sicelo: /hildon-status-menu/issues/5
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<sicelo> at least i uninstalled all my plugins. problem still there
<sicelo> arno11: i think in general all issues should go to bugtracker/issues ... one place for everything makes it easier to see what's still pending, etc.
<Wizzup> I think coredumps would be helpful here
<arno11> same for me
<arno11> sicelo: for bugtracker, yes indeed
<arno11> Wizzup: for coredump, we already tried iirc
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<arno11> Wizzup: no issue for you with h-s-m ?
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<Wizzup> no
<sicelo> another topic - i can't send sms with conversations (droid 4). i've never needed to, and this was my first attempt
<Wizzup> are you on devel?
<Wizzup> and restarted after being on devel?
<sicelo> yes
<Wizzup> where do you run into problems in particular
<sicelo> i type message and enter number tosend to. then Send button does nothing
<Wizzup> Ok, that is strange. Is this a db that had sphone messages in it before?
<sicelo> or it wants saved contact
<Wizzup> Oh, wait...
<Wizzup> you're using the 'new message' thing?
<Wizzup> yeah, that is a stub... lol :)
<Wizzup> you currently 'have' to go through a saved contact and press 'sms' at the contact card
<sicelo> ah .. this isn't a saved contact
<Wizzup> technically it doesn't need to be a contact
<Wizzup> but there's no other way to start a channel currently, except when someone messages you first
<Wizzup> (and yes, this is a big deficiency that we will address soon)
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<sicelo> yes it's a major issue, i'd say. the channel problem is in telepathy?
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<Wizzup> sicelo: we just need to write the code
<Wizzup> with some abook integration mostly
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