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<arno11> Wizzup: great
<arno11> we still need to find a trick for trackers btw
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<Wizzup> arno11: right
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<arno11> and see what's going on on boot. Then n900 with leste should be not bad for a 15y old device imo
<Wizzup> mhm
<Wizzup> did apt upgrade work ok for oyu?
<arno11> i didn't try recently
<Wizzup> I did some postinst magic for swap
<arno11> yep i saw it
<arno11> i'll try from a fresh install with another sd to check
<arno11> should work but maybe the first boot will be a bit more difficult
<arno11> ah no in fact, emmc should be ok on first boot with 6.1
<arno11> so just need to check upgrade, indeed
<arno11> *devel upgrade
<Wizzup> rtight
<Wizzup> I think it's ok, no need to retry hat now
<arno11> ok cool
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<Wizzup> arno11: do you recall how to stop sphone from forcing rotation?
<Wizzup> I am trying to debug xmpp calls in the vm and the screen keeps turning black due to the forced rotation
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<Wizzup> found it
<Wizzup> $ cat ./usr/share/sphone/sphone.ini.d/landscape-call.ini.leste
<Wizzup> [Gui]
<Wizzup> LandscapeCalls=1
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<Wizzup> arno11: btw, why are notification windows transparent with your transitions.ini
<arno11> good question, never noticed that. will check
<Wizzup> also imo the animation to show icons in app menu can be a bit faster
<arno11> that's a bit tricky, it is easy to make it faster but the animation should be not visible anymore
<arno11> for notification, yes there is a bit of transparency indeed
<arno11> i didn't add any modif for that iirc
<Wizzup> what do you mean, should not be visible anymore?
<Wizzup> it's very visible on n900 and d4
<arno11> yes ofc but only because the animation is 'slow'
<arno11> (or maybe we are not talking about the same thing)
<arno11> to make the wave animation in app menu faster: [launcher_in] duration = 500 instead of 1000
<Wizzup> yes that is what I meant, it takes time before I can select an icomn
<Wizzup> ok, cool
<Wizzup> I g2g for a bit
<arno11> but not sure the wave will be really 'visible' anymore
<arno11> *iirc
<arno11> hm weird, on my device, even with the 'slow' animation, it is quite fast and i'm able to click on an icon before the end of the wave. but i have to click really quickly
<arno11> same for zoom between windows, able to click and show a window before the end of the animation with no lag
<Wizzup> well how do you click on icon before it's done if it hasn't shown yet? :D
<arno11> ? i don't get it: there are supposed to be immediately visible
<arno11> (i didn't see your msgs about sphone btw)
<arno11> *visible but zooming in
<Wizzup> so the icons don't fly from the side of the screen into their place for you?
<arno11> yes but that's really fast
<Wizzup> it takes about a second yeah :D
<arno11> or maybe i modified it again lol, let me check
<arno11> i still have 1000 in launcher_in but i'm able to click on icons during the animation
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<arno11> 500 is too fast on my device and the wave effect is almost not visible
<arno11> or maybe i'm too old to tweak transitions lol
<arno11> but iirc in fremantle, it needs 1500ms to show the wave anim entirely
<arno11> bbl
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<sicelo> any suggestions for an image editor i can use to make some new icons for Leste? icons like the 3G/4G icon ... to be specific - i really want to have icons that show when i'm roaming
<moparisthebest> Gimp
<sicelo> i don't recall what program i used for the 4G icon back then. maybe it was Gimp. Inkspace suddenly seems weird/confusing
<sicelo> moparisthebest: problem with gimp is that it's optimized for 'images' ... for example, looks like i don't have easy way to modify just one pixel. the 'brushes' take up a number of pixels
<sicelo> but yeah, could just be PEBKAC
<moparisthebest> You can zoom in and change individual pixels
<moparisthebest> It was just a suggestion by the way, my image editing is pretty much limited to making backgrounds transparent etc, something else could be better. I've heard good things about Krita
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<sicelo> yes, thanks. i think it's gimp that i used before
<sicelo> https://rx.cloudhead.io/ looks like it would be handy
<dsc_> icons sounds like pixelart
<sixwheeledbeast> gimp is fine for pixels
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<dsc_> gimp cant do pixels
<dsc_> :>
<sixwheeledbeast> I have used it for that...
<arno11> re USB charge: it stopped to work again today but that's the third time i lost hsdpa connection at the same time...coincidence ?
<arno11> and it works again after reboot
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<freemangordon> arno11: I will look at that blur issue, could you elaborate on it?
<freemangordon> I won;t be surprised if it is the same issue as with https://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-desktop/commit/c93499570cabacb5808a39bcc3fae127caff028e
<arno11> ok cool, let me few min to check
<freemangordon> no hurry, I just came home so won;t do much today
<arno11> ok ;)
<arno11> btw the blur issue seems different that the symptoms specified in the commit
<arno11> when blur effect is enable, everything is simply slower: gtk and qt5 scrolling, launch time, responsiveness when you navigate or click on a button
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<freemangordon> I see
<freemangordon> ok, will have a look
<arno11> (at least on a fast sd card, the diff is clearly visible)
<freemangordon> do you have some hard values to confirm?
<arno11> ok tyvm
<freemangordon> like CLUTTER_SHOW_FPS values?
<dsc_> im nearly done with matrix
<freemangordon> if you don;t know what I am talking about, scratch that :)
<dsc_> will commit tomorrow
<freemangordon> great :)
<arno11> i know what you are talking about
<dsc_> freemangordon: i actually understand telepathy now
<freemangordon> heh
<dsc_> no code review yet pls
<dsc_> :P
<arno11> freemangordon: i need to restart H-D with this env to check fps diff, right ?
<freemangordon> dsc_: ok ;)
<freemangordon> arno11: yes, and you better use maemo-summoner to start h-d
<arno11> ok i think there is the proper command in irc logs
<freemangordon> so you have to dsmetool -k h-d
<arno11> ok
<arno11> and restart with maemo summoner
<freemangordon> and then G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all CLUTTER_SHOW_FPS=1 maemo-summoner /usr/bin/hildon-desktop.launch
<arno11> ok
<freemangordon> or something like that
<arno11> ok
<arno11> it is a bit late here, but i can provide you the result tomorrow
<freemangordon> yeah, sure
<freemangordon> as I said, no hurry
<freemangordon> tomorrow I'll dig my n900 too
<arno11> cool
<freemangordon> to see if I will be able to recreate. Also h-s-m issues
<arno11> ah yes
<arno11> cool
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<KREYREN> Which initrd modules should be explicitly loaded for N900 to work without issues?
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<KREYREN> found it in the dtb
<KREYREN> actually still unsure
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: you don't need n900 to recreate blur, it's slow on mapphones too
<Wizzup> it's the main reason status menu opens slow I think
<Wizzup> sicelo: also, icon for otp? :D