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<Wizzup> freemangordon: great
<Wizzup> I can test this with slack
<Wizzup> maybe we can build it in experimental?
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<freemangordon> we can build for devel
<freemangordon> after moving the other packages to stable
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<freemangordon> however, without working conversations application, this is of no use
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: ok, I'll work on the devel-stable push this morning and see if I can do some of the UI work for conversations
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<freemangordon> great
<Wizzup> I need the UI work to test the logging code proper
<freemangordon> the same for backends :)
<Wizzup> yeah
<freemangordon> hmm, why abook does not start chat?
<freemangordon> it did before
<Wizzup> it never did with conversations
<freemangordon> yes, but did with empathy
<freemangordon> in the VM, not on the device (because of glx)
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<Wizzup> could be conversations run before empathy and registers itself as default
<Wizzup> runs*
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: shall I move it all then?
<freemangordon> only those are missing in stable?
<freemangordon> hmm
<freemangordon> yes, please move them
<Wizzup> newer, not missing
<Wizzup> these are missing:
<freemangordon> yeah, that's what I meant
<Wizzup> $ python3 repodiff.py chimaera-devel chimaera -t missing -f source
<Wizzup> Packages in chimaera-devel but not in chimaera
<Wizzup> hildon-session 0.9-1+m7 source
<Wizzup> mafw-tracker-source 0.3.2+m7 source
<Wizzup> tinydm 1.0.2+m7 source
<Wizzup> tracker 2.3.6-2+m7 source
<Wizzup> gst-plugins-base1.0 1.18.4-2+m7 source
<freemangordon> ah, right
<freemangordon> hildon-session?
<freemangordon> the one that asks for root password?
<Wizzup> probably best to be ignored for now I think
<freemangordon> no
<freemangordon> why?
* freemangordon checks
<Wizzup> or do we use this?
<freemangordon> tinydm?
<Wizzup> do we use this now? I am not sure
<freemangordon> we don;t have elogind session in stable?
<Wizzup> seems like it
<freemangordon> ugh
<freemangordon> we need them too then
<freemangordon> also, I don;t see metapackages here
<freemangordon> hildon-meta
<freemangordon> it is there
<freemangordon> so we need all of them
<freemangordon> elogind session is a must
<freemangordon> for lots of things
<freemangordon> so yeah, lets move everything
<freemangordon> if some bug gets triggered, well, we'll fix it :)
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> mu -dev droid does not have tinydm installed
<freemangordon> hmm
<freemangordon> what is this then?
* freemangordon checks
<Wizzup> same for hildon-session
<Wizzup> I think this was some preparation for using other session mgr
<Wizzup> but then you did it some other way
<freemangordon> ah, right
<freemangordon> I soo no hildon-session as well
<freemangordon> *I see
<freemangordon> so, don;t move those 2
<freemangordon> hildon-session and tiny-dm
<freemangordon> I think it is better to remove them once and for all
<Wizzup> not sure if once and for all is correct, we might use it later, but we can remove it from the repos for now if you like
<Wizzup> so we don't make the mistake later
<Wizzup> done
<freemangordon> tinydm is copied from pmos, iirc
<freemangordon> so we don;t need it, but ok
<Wizzup> let me start with missing pkgs
<freemangordon> and I have no idea what hildon-session is
<freemangordon> ok
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<Wizzup> I think it goes with tinydm
<freemangordon> we also want omp in extras
<Wizzup> right
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<freemangordon> hmm, TP does not call empathy chat client
<freemangordon> what the?
<Wizzup> freemangordon: only one program can register, probably conversations did
<Wizzup> that is what I said
<freemangordon> I killed it
<Wizzup> restart empathy maybe
* freemangordon checks
<freemangordon> h,, maybe I shall restart mc
<freemangordon> *hmm
<freemangordon> Wizzup: ok, you are rgith
<freemangordon> *right
<freemangordon> conversations keep restarting
<freemangordon> how to stop them?
<freemangordon> oh, dsme
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<freemangordon> yeah, now it is better :)
<freemangordon> Wizzup: oh, we shall also do the translations
<Wizzup> and support translation
<Wizzup> s
<Wizzup> freemangordon: maybe, if you're up for it, we can just start hacking away at all parts and then work with dsc when he's ready
<Wizzup> I have some family things today still but I can do the devel->stable stuff now in the meantime
<freemangordon> sorry, can't parse
<freemangordon> I meant account-ui translations
<Wizzup> oh
<Wizzup> :)
<Wizzup> right
<freemangordon> for conversations, I guess we already have translations, mor or less
<Wizzup> right, I suppose
<freemangordon> they just have to be used :)
<freemangordon> ah, speaking of which: please, implement copy in conversations
<freemangordon> select/copy that is
<freemangordon> I felt stupid when I asked my GF to send me some wifi pwd vis SMS
<freemangordon> and then I was not able to copy/paste it :D
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: BTW, why is there no sound for incomming calls?
<freemangordon> I mean - it vibrates and that's all
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<sicelo> there is. use `sphone -c options` to set one if it isn't working for you
<Wizzup> freemangordon: not sure @ no sound
<Wizzup> freemangordon: agreed @ copy, maybe open an issue
<sicelo> i also can confirm alarm does not get silenced when i turn the d4 face down
<sicelo> nor does it on an incoming call
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<freemangordon> sicelo: as I said, mce is broken
<Wizzup> freemangordon: we have omp in hildon-meta
<Wizzup> you still want it in extras?
<Wizzup> imo it doesn't really make sense given that it's our 'default' media player
<Wizzup> (to have it in extras)
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: yes, maybe move it to system packages
<freemangordon> sicelo: choosing sound does not help, shall I kill sphone or something?
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<freemangordon> ok, it seems there is no sound at all, besides TS 'clicks'
<freemangordon> wtf?
<Wizzup> almost all pkgs are now synced from devel to stable
<freemangordon> great
<freemangordon> hmm:
<freemangordon> mafw-gst-renderer-worker-volume-CRITICAL **: 19:23:58.550: mafw_gst_renderer_worker_volume_get: assertion 'wvolume != NULL' failed
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<freemangordon> ok, gstreamer does not produce any sound as well
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<arno11> freemangordon: is this only on your d4 ?
<freemangordon> I doubt
<freemangordon> after a call, there is no more sound in OMP
<Wizzup> maybe check selected audio use case
<freemangordon> mafw-gst-renderer that is
<freemangordon> how?
<Wizzup> pavucontrol
<arno11> i'll try on my n900
<freemangordon> Wizzup: what to check there?
<freemangordon> profile is "play hifi..."
<Wizzup> ok, that's good
<Wizzup> maybe switch it to phone call and back and see if that helps somehow
<freemangordon> also, I cah hear "clicks" from touch screen
<Wizzup> weird
<Wizzup> any pending updates?
<Wizzup> (probably a bunch from the stable builds)
<freemangordon> I guess
<freemangordon> bit it was up-to-date
<freemangordon> if I stop mafw-gst-renderer, than gst-launch produces sound
<freemangordon> but if mafw-gst-renderer is running, there is no sound whatsoever, besides clicks
<freemangordon> however, before the first call (which I didn't even picked-up) there was sound in OMP
<freemangordon> and there was ringing sound (nokia tune)
<freemangordon> but now even sphone does not produce sound
<freemangordon> this is something with PA, but I have no idea how to debug
<freemangordon> maybe stream-restore 2 misbehaves
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<Wizzup> bb
<Wizzup> bbl
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<arno11> freemangordon: no troubles on n900
<arno11> maybe something wrong with ucm after kernel update ?
<arno11> (not the first time iirc)
<arno11> on n900 playing sound with audacious and taking call at the same time works perfectly, not with omp
<arno11> omp sound stops and sound call starts (omp seems to use alsa only)
<arno11> but omp uses 2 PA threads so i don't get it
<bencoh> isn't it on purpose though?
<bencoh> (the fact that omp stops)
<arno11> ah maybe
<arno11> if it is on purpose it works great :D
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<freemangordon> yes, it is
<freemangordon> it shall resume after call ends
<freemangordon> does it?
<freemangordon> so maybe only (my)d4 is broken
<freemangordon> but I need some hints how to debug
<arno11> freemangordon: yes sound is back after a call
<freemangordon> cool
<freemangordon> that's how it should be
<arno11> :)
<freemangordon> anyway, cooking ATM, will ping you later on if possible to help me with PA
<arno11> no probs
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<sicelo> arno11: btw how do you benchmark the speeds of SD cards?
<sicelo> seems, at least according to `xzcat img-file | dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 ...`, one of my cards is 3.8MB/s.
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<arno11> sicelo: it works fine using dd (pretty accurate). you should reach 10MB/s write and 20MB/s read with a u3
<arno11> btw 10 and 20MB/s are the sd bus speed limits iirc
<sicelo> oh nice. and is N900 able to push the card up to that rate? or it maxes somewhere lower than that?
<arno11> with a good u3, it hits the limits
<arno11> so it means that most u3 are overkilled but u1 are too slow
<sicelo> cool. i think the card i'm using for Leste is slightly better than this one. how can i test without wiping it?
<arno11> there is a proper tool, let me check
<arno11> ah yes you can use hdparm
<arno11> but imo nothing is more accurate than dd
<sicelo> yes, i think i agree ... sudo hdparm -t /dev/mmcblk0
<sicelo> Timing buffered disk reads: 130 MB in 3.03 seconds = 42.96 MB/sec
<sicelo> which is unlikely :-D
<sicelo> oh, this is read only. maybe likely after all?
<arno11> unrealistic imo
<arno11> testing sd is tricky, too much parameters involved imo
<arno11> but again, dd seems pretty accurate compared to other 'safe' tools
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