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<freemangordon> ok, FB avatars work as well
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<arno11> freemangordon: really cool
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<freemangordon> ok, profile pics resolution is fixed as well, avatars are no longer blurry
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<ungeskriptet> How usable is maemo with only a touchscreen? Since most devices here have a keyboard
<Wizzup> not usable enough yet, the virtual keyboard in qt is missing
<Wizzup> and this is a Big Problem
<Wizzup> but one of the last Big Problems :)
<freemangordon> :)
<freemangordon> Wizzup: how's conversations going? do you need any help with abook?
<freemangordon> oh, btw, when logging to rtcom, I think you should log master(if any), not roster contact
<freemangordon> also, do we support group chats already?
<freemangordon> because empathy does nto seem to support
<freemangordon> or tp-haze is broken in that regard
<freemangordon> ok, tp-haze does not support group chats :)
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<freemangordon> seem I will have to implement that
<arno11> sicelo: sorry just saw your question about bat temp :D usually around 30-35 for me
<arno11> sicelo: and btw do you still have troubles with voicecall sound ?
<arno11> (just to be sure i didn't forget something with calls...)
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: I'm waiting on dsc atm for the group chat ui
<Wizzup> I need to travel home tomorrow for a week so was a bit distracted, but I will get to more of it soon
<Wizzup> freemangordon: haze groupchat sounds really great btw
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<k1r1t0> Hello everyone, the Internet does not work on the N900 through a mobile operator. The signal level is normal, the connection indication is present, but mobile data is not available.
<buZz> k1r1t0: does your provider still offer 2G?
<buZz> if not, you cant get online with it, afaik
<bencoh> ?
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<sicelo> buZz: the op mentioned 'signal level is normal, the connection indication is present' ... thus it can be safely assumed that their provider has 2G or 3G :-)
<sicelo> arno11: i'll test and let you know
<buZz> oh, i missed 'connection indication'
<buZz> if there's a 2G/3G icon, you should be online yeah, maybe APN config is wrong?
<k1r1t0> 3.5G indication. I can’t change it to 2G in the settings, the “Save” button is not active. There is an endless process of receiving settings from the operator
<sicelo> what does `ip address show` output?
<sicelo> and `ip route show`
<k1r1t0> Desktop command widget Shows the correct operator address: External IP: 176,111,79,85
<k1r1t0> [21:46] k1r1t0: user@devuan-n900:~$ ip address show
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
 inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: sit0@NONE: <NOARP> mtu 1480 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000

<Wizzup> is this cut off?
<k1r1t0> No
<sicelo> mmm, taken by itself, this says you're not connected to anything
<sicelo> ip address show gprs0 ?
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<k1r1t0> [21:59] k1r1t0: user@devuan-n900:~$ ip address show gprs0
10: gprs0: <POINTOPOINT,NOARP,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1400 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN group default qlen 10
 link/phonet_pipe 
 inet 10.29.147.137/32 scope global gprs0
 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
<bencoh> and `ip route show` ?
<k1r1t0> No result
<k1r1t0> Now I noticed the widget gives the correct IP if the mobile connection is not active
<buZz> i wonder if the ISP might be ipv6 only
<bencoh> I'd highly doubt that
<buZz> oh, that wont explain a ipv4 address appearing
<bencoh> k1r1t0: you can try adding a default route to gprs0 and see if it helps
<bencoh> something like `sudo ip r add default dev gprs0`
<bencoh> but you shouldn't need that ...
<k1r1t0> IPv6 is a separate option, I did not connect it
<sicelo> this is weird, and yes, you don't need to manually add a route anymore. leste handles it correctly
<sicelo> run the following:
<sicelo> `busctl tree org.ofono | grep context`, then run:
<sicelo> `busctl call org.ofono /n900_X/contextY org.ofono.ConnectionContext GetProperties` (X and Y are from the above command)
<k1r1t0> [22:13] k1r1t0: user@devuan-n900:~$ sudo ip r add default dev gprs0
user@devuan-n900:~$ ip route show
default dev gprs0 scope link
<sicelo> show us output of this last command (busctl ...)
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<arno11> btw, maybe k1r1t0 should run /usr/share/ofono/scripts/set-roaming-allowed
<sicelo> ofono-scripts exist in all bare image, or require installing?
<arno11> existing in all img
<sicelo> ah,
<sicelo> anyway, it seems they do get an IP ... so unlikely to be a roaming issue (since in that case they shouldn't get an IP until they've first enabled roaming, at least iiuc)
<arno11> iirc, yes you're right
<arno11> ah maybe k1r1t0 is not up to date with -devel
<sicelo> ah, true! not everything is in stable yet, i suppose
<arno11> probably
<arno11> and maybe it's time now to define troubleshooting processes
<arno11> and steps with probing questions to ask first
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<k1r1t0_> ser@devuan-n900:~$ busctl call org.ofono /n900_2/context1 org.ofono.ConnectionContext GetRoperties
<k1r1t0_> no result
<buZz> getRoperties ? :D
<buZz> maybe use GetProperties
<Wizzup> maybe start with being up to date with -devel if not already
<Wizzup> and then try roaming bit
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<Wizzup> and if that's not it, let's debug further
<arno11> definitely the right way
<k1r1t0_> ser@devuan-n900:~$ busctl call org.ofono /n900_2/context1 org.ofono.ConnectionContext GetProperties
<k1r1t0_> a{sv} 10 "Name" s "Internet" "Active" b true "Type" s "internet" "Protocol" s "ip" "AccessPointName" s "internet" "Username" s "" "Password" s "" "AuthenticationMethod" s "chap" "Settings" a{sv} 5 "Interface" s "gprs0" "Method" s "static" "Address" s "10.34.18.1" "Netmask" s "255.255.255.255" "DomainNameServers" as 2 "10.97.52.76" "10.97.52.68" "IPv6.Settings" a{sv} 0
<sicelo> ah, sorry for the typo :-)
<sicelo> so we're good here. and you've already added the route, correct? (sudo `ip route add default dev gprs0)
<sicelo> next question is - is the internet working now? it should be (after adding the route)
<k1r1t0> Every connection needs to be done this way.
<sicelo> so it's working now?
<sicelo> even though it's manual?
<k1r1t0> Yes
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<sicelo> i scared them off
<Wizzup> diff user
<sicelo> ah, still here :-)
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<sicelo> k1r1t0: so the problem you have has already been fixed in -devel. as Wizzup mentioned, you can upgrade to that, but if you absolutely want to stay with stable, then wait a couple of weeks. i believe there were plans to upgrade stuff in stable soon
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<k1r1t0_> Got it, thank you very much
<sicelo> if you're not ready for -devel, but are feeling super brave, do `dpkg -l libicd-network-ofono libicd-network-ipv4` and store that output somewhere. then download the debs for the upgraded packages. should be safe, i think, since it doesn't look like there were any new deps
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<sicelo> if things go south, you can always download the debs corresponding to your saved versions, and all will be ok again
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<k1r1t0> How to add repo-devel
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<arno11> in /etc/apt/sources.list, add:
<arno11> deb https://maedevu.maemo.org/leste chimaera-devel main contrib non-free n900
<k1r1t0> Ok
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<k1r1t0> Need apt dist-upgrade ?
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<arno11> yes, update then dist-upgrade
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<freemangordon> umm, dist-upgrade?
<freemangordon> why?
<arno11> why not ? :D
<Wizzup> freemangordon: it resolves certain conflicts that upgrade does not
<Wizzup> it's been necessary some times
<Wizzup> debian even recommends it I think
<Wizzup> it doesn't actually mean distribution upgrade
<freemangordon> yes, but upgrade to -devel should not need it IIUC
<freemangordon> anyway
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