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<arno11> pretty sure that transitions/zoom/animations is a big part of the problem with gtk. not normal that n900 runs so much faster with light transitions (specially with overclock)
<freemangordon> arno11: I found an issue with BO cache
<freemangordon> doing final tests and there will be new release
<arno11> ah ok :)
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<freemangordon> arno11: I don;t see any need for light transitions here
<freemangordon> the only issue I see is slow scrolling in gtk apps
<freemangordon> but I don;t think this is related to transitions.ini
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<freemangordon> unless I am missing something
<freemangordon> also, scrolling in settings (for example) is slow even when compositing is disabled
<freemangordon> so it is something with GTK, not related to h-d at all
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<uvos__> i mean gtk2 scrolling is allways bad even on fremantle
<uvos__> its no where near the smoothness of eg android on simmular hw, since its sw rendered,
<freemangordon> but not *that* bad
<freemangordon> sodeffinitely we lack some optimizationf from fremantle
<freemangordon> uvos__: actually, with the ddx I am about to release, it is pretty smooth on d4
<freemangordon> but is really bad on n900
<freemangordon> albeit better than ever before
<freemangordon> uvos__: do you have any idea why would be HW compositing slower, even on d4?
<uvos__> i mean d4 has sufficant cpu to just brute force it to be mostly ok yeah
<uvos__> freemangordon: no sorrz
<uvos__> *y
<freemangordon> ok, but it is slower on n900 as well
<freemangordon> few fps, but still
<freemangordon> like, 5 or so & slower
<freemangordon> %
<freemangordon> anyway
<freemangordon> new ddx is on its way
<freemangordon> please upgrade and test
<uvos__> lower fps in what
<freemangordon> everything
<uvos__> i mean it stands to reason that hw comp. dose more on sgx, so if the cpu would otherwise be idle sgx might have more time to do rendering
<uvos__> but im just guesing, i really dont know
<freemangordon> ok
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<freemangordon> anyway, I think we now have DDX that is more or less ok
<uvos__> grea
<uvos__> t
<uvos__> i mean honestly it was fine on d4 before
<uvos__> performance wise
<freemangordon> uvos__: maybe you can compare with 1.5 (or whatever the last omapofb one was)
<uvos__> freemangordon: yeah n900 is different story
<freemangordon> like, not scientifically
<arno11> freemangordon: (on my device, scrolling in settings is very fast when i disable compo)
<uvos__> but omapdf we cant really try anymore
<freemangordon> yeah
<uvos__> since it needs really old kernel for sgx to work on fb
<freemangordon> arno11: in 32bpp?
<arno11> 16
<freemangordon> well...
<arno11> but even 32 is ok
<uvos__> yeah i mean if you copy only have the data around
<uvos__> thats cheating
<freemangordon> it is ok, but not good
<uvos__> *half
<arno11> let me try again
<freemangordon> uvos__: :nod:
<freemangordon> arno11: please upgrade ddx first
<freemangordon> or...
<freemangordon> check before and after the upgrade
<arno11> ok let's go
<arno11> brb
<freemangordon> I want another confirmation (or not) that the new ddx is better
<arno11> ok
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<Daanct12> good morning everyone, haven't been here for a while
<Daanct12> anything changed since i last looked at it?
<freemangordon> lots of things, do you want to know something in particular?
<Wizzup> Daanct12: depends on when you last looked ;)
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<arno11> freemangordon: well...things are a bit deroutant
<arno11> no change between 16 and 24/32 without new ddx in term of scrolling
<arno11> but again with light trans.
<arno11> so with light trans things are better in term of scrolling
<arno11> now the weird stuff
<arno11> with new ddx, everything is ok, absolutely no change for me in 24bpp
<arno11> (with light trans)
<freemangordon> why weird?
<arno11> but in 16bpp, huge diff
<freemangordon> like for good or?
<arno11> for good
<freemangordon> yeah, because on 24bpp we are CPU bound
<freemangordon> in 16bpp it is the same as it is in fremantle, with stock transitions
<arno11> the weird part arrives...lol
<freemangordon> ?
<arno11> now i'm able to play ps1 games in windows mode without disabling compo
<arno11> full speed
<freemangordon> :)
<arno11> that's cool but weird
<freemangordon> why weird?
<arno11> es2gears is still slow with compo for example
<freemangordon> because it is GPU bound
<freemangordon> we can;t get anything more than lets say 20fps there
<arno11> ah yes indeed
<arno11> so ok nothing weird
<freemangordon> BTW, do you have uSD with the old (and I mean old) drivers?
<arno11> and new ddx seems ok for n900 imo
<freemangordon> like, 4.x kernel or something
<arno11> ah, not sure
<arno11> i have to check
<freemangordon> with omapfb driver that is
<freemangordon> it would be great if you can compare
<arno11> yes indeed
<arno11> i can try a bit later
<freemangordon> to see if we are hitting the HW limits or it can be better
<freemangordon> no hurry
<arno11> ok i see
<arno11> i'll check :)
<freemangordon> another thing:
<freemangordon> do you see rendering artifacts in conversations or in wheather application?
<arno11> let me check
<arno11> nope in weather and the app is faster
<Wizzup> is this about ants?
<freemangordon> no
<freemangordon> I see fonts misrendered and some other drawing artifacts on d4
<Wizzup> isn't that the ants problem (fonts misrendered?)
<freemangordon> not sure
<Wizzup> I've been seeing for many months, probably a yeare
<Wizzup> year*
<arno11> conversation is faster too and no artifacts
<freemangordon> I am trying to see if I didn;t break something with so many optimizations :)
<freemangordon> arno11: do you know which exactly transitions.ini change makes scrolling faster?
<arno11> good question, iirc it is when i disable zoom/animations
<freemangordon> could you confirm?
<arno11> let me check
<freemangordon> Wizzup: hmm, that's weird
<freemangordon> I have the feeling that rendering artifacts are somehow related to battery charge level
<freemangordon> I left the device on charger for a while and now there are only some ants there
<freemangordon> but fornts are rendered properly
<freemangordon> tmlind: ^^^
<freemangordon> no, conversations are still bad
<arno11> freemangordon: sorry i need time to check all trans parameters
<freemangordon> sure, no hurry
<freemangordon> ok, whatever the issue with misrendering is, it is not in DDX
<freemangordon> at least not in PVR EXA
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<Wizzup> yeah, it's been very hard to track down this ants problem
<Wizzup> or however we want to call it :)
<freemangordon> with Option"NoAccel""true" conversations still misrender fonts
<freemangordon> so it is either blobs or kernel driver not flushing caches
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<freemangordon> uvos__: what was that register which was changing some GPU frequency parameter or something?
<freemangordon> LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 /usr/bin/conversations 'fixes' it :)
<uvos__> yeah i mean for some reason textures are created with missing bits
<uvos__> so letting llvmpipe do it works ofc
<uvos__> freemangordon: i dont know what you mean, the register to control the sgx core clock was 0x4A008164
<freemangordon> right
<freemangordon> that one
<freemangordon> do you have the commands around?
<uvos__> omapconf write 0x4A008164 $VALUE
<uvos__> its a devider so increasing the value lowers the clock
<uvos__> iirc
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: uvos: could you please create /etc/powervr.ini with content:
<freemangordon> [default]
<freemangordon> DisableHWTQTextureUpload=1
<freemangordon> to check if that fixes the ants and misrendering?
<freemangordon> heh, I think that was it :)
<tmlind> cool so not a battery power level issue?
<Wizzup> freemangordon: wow, let me try now
<freemangordon> tmlind: hard to say yet, lets confirm it
<tmlind> freemangordon: ok i'll enable it too later on today :)
<freemangordon> so far 5 reboots in a row, no ants in either h-d or conversations
<freemangordon> or anywhere in that regard
<freemangordon> but my battery is fully charged :)
<Wizzup> freemangordon: how did you figure this out
<Wizzup> this is probably the best improvement in a long time
<freemangordon> well... intuition
<freemangordon> does it work for you?
<Wizzup> yes
<freemangordon> great
<freemangordon> please someone to add powervr.ini to omap4 devices with sgx config
<freemangordon> arno11: sicelo: no ants on n900, right?
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<arno11> freemangordon: indeed, no ants
<arno11> and i switched to original transitions to check, and no diff with scrolling (still good in settings) but h-d is def. slower with all animations
<arno11> so for the scrolling there is something in my config which improves things
<freemangordon> ok, please find what it is
<arno11> yep
<arno11> no idea atm lol
<freemangordon> heh
<freemangordon> could you shot a video of scrolling in settings, so I can compare with mine?
<freemangordon> not ow, but when you have some time
<freemangordon> *now
<freemangordon> maybe overclocking?
<freemangordon> my device runs on stock speeds
<freemangordon> and given it is CPU bound...
<freemangordon> BTW, what stops those changes from entering the repos?
<freemangordon> 720/805 that is
<freemangordon> Wizzup: any idea? ^^^
<arno11> there is no build with that change with 6.1.48
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<freemangordon> ok, but why? is ther any issue?
<arno11> freemangordon: a bit slower on my device at 600MHz
<uvos__> freemangordon: what settings? transtitions.ini? we dont want to disable all the bling with no knowlage of what helps, its very shotgun aproche
<freemangordon> umm...
<uvos__> hmm?
<freemangordon> I am against changing transitions.ini :)
<uvos__> right
<arno11> fmg was talking about boost freq
<freemangordon> right
<Wizzup> freemangordon: what changes from entering the repo?
<uvos__> oh the kernel patch?
<uvos__> its in the repo
<freemangordon> yes
<Wizzup> the over clock?
<arno11> yep
<freemangordon> which repo?
<arno11> ?
<freemangordon> my n900 is on -devel and there are no boost freqs
<arno11> me too
<uvos__> i just never released a new kernel, since i was sure 6.6 was about to happen
<freemangordon> ah :)
<uvos__> but then there where additional issues
<freemangordon> with 6.6 I guess
<uvos__> yes
<uvos__> so if you want you can just rebuild the kernel
<freemangordon> yes, please
<freemangordon> me?
<uvos__> sure
<freemangordon> it was a while I did that
<uvos__> it works, i ran it on my device a while
<freemangordon> could you do it for me?
<uvos__> you just need to change the changelog
<freemangordon> heh, ok
<uvos__> sure but then you will need to wait untill im at home
<uvos__> (2 days)
<freemangordon> well...
<arno11> freemangordon: or just create a uimage
<freemangordon> we can wait for 2 more days I guess
<freemangordon> I can do it as well if I find spare time for it
<freemangordon> uvos__: so, everything is pushed on github?
<uvos__> freemangordon: yes
<freemangordon> ok
<freemangordon> right
<uvos__> and update ttps://github.com/maemo-leste/droid4-linux/blob/maemo/chimaera-devel/debian/changelog
<uvos__> and kick ci
<freemangordon> mhm
<freemangordon> thanks
<freemangordon> how to make WtWebbrowser fullscreen?
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<freemangordon> QtWebbrowser that is
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<uvos__> i dont think you can
<freemangordon> hmm, FF seems to use GPU to render
<Wizzup> you can disable this if you wish
<freemangordon> right, but I was surprised it even works on SGX
<Wizzup> mhm
<Wizzup> so I've been using sphone+tp module, voicecall and conversations for a few days on my d4 and it's mostly fine
<Wizzup> a few things remain to be done (mostly improved notifications and mapping remote_uid to remote_name using abook)
<Wizzup> but for sms and calls it seems fine
<Wizzup> freemangordon: shall I add a powervr.ini (or powervr.d entry maybe) to leste-config for mapphone and n900 ?
<freemangordon> for n900 it is not needed
<Wizzup> interesting
<Wizzup> ok
<freemangordon> only for mapphone
<freemangordon> well, maybe sgx in n900 does not have that buggy HW :)
<Wizzup> I see
<freemangordon> ok, I am impressed with how FF performs on d4
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<freemangordon> the only thing that's slow is YT playback
<freemangordon> but I guess it is because it uses gst :)
<Wizzup> and gst is without xv?
<freemangordon> does not matter
<freemangordon> its decoding is slow
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<freemangordon> the same clip that runs with 25 fps on n900 through mplayer (and xv) runs with .5 fps through gst (and xv) :)
* freemangordon feels excited for finally killing all the ants around
<uvos__> poor ants :(
<freemangordon> Wizzup: does choosing IM action from abook work?
<freemangordon> uvos__: ok, you can keep yours alive :p
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: with conversations currently, no
<Wizzup> but we should work on that :)
<tmlind> freemangordon: no ants here so far with just the powervr.ini change and after reloading pvr modules, battery pretty full though
<freemangordon> umm... what OS is that?
<freemangordon> not leste I guess
<tmlind> stellarium just seems to getting slower and slower, about 2.5 fps right now.. maybe it constantly adds new objects
<tmlind> only tested so far with with my alpine setup and sway..
<freemangordon> about 4 fps here
<tmlind> hmm
<tmlind> stellarium 23.3 here, i'll try disabling some objects
<freemangordon> 0.20.4
<freemangordon> maybe xorg renders faster than WL :)
<tmlind> i get only 4 fps if i disable atmosphere nowadays it seems
<tmlind> i think i was getting over 12 fps at some point but that was some earlier version of stellarium too
<freemangordon> yeah
<freemangordon> back then on n900 it was rendering like mad
<tmlind> yeah i guess glmark2 is the only thing that really counts though
<freemangordon> lemme try it with compositing disabled
<tmlind> no ants though, battery at 87%
<Wizzup> I don't think the battery plays a role here
<tmlind> ok great
<freemangordon> yeah, seems that option fixes the issue
<tmlind> nice
<tmlind> earlier i saw ants often when just flipping workspaces in sway
<tmlind> also nice to hear it does not seem to be a kernel driver cache issue
<freemangordon> right
<freemangordon> if it was kernel issue, most probably we would have to live with it
<tmlind> well that pile of stuff must have many bugs remaining though..
<freemangordon> glmark2 Score: 85
<freemangordon> this is with full leste stack running
<tmlind> nice
<freemangordon> glmark started in fullscreen, in landscape
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<freemangordon> so, no compositing
<freemangordon> lemme check with compositing
<freemangordon> I guess twice less :)
<freemangordon> oh, here we are more or less vsync-ed
<freemangordon> omg
<freemangordon> glmark2 Score: 60
<freemangordon> I was expecting lower score
<freemangordon> seems latest DDX performs really well
<tmlind> great
<freemangordon> I wonder what would be the results on WL
<freemangordon> maybe above 90 for non-composited mode
<tmlind> looks like glmark2 is currently uninstallable for arm on alpine for some reason
<freemangordon> I was building it from source
<tmlind> yeah let me check
<freemangordon> glmark2 2021.02
<freemangordon> tmlind: did you try the latest blobs?
<tmlind> hmm nope, did you?
<freemangordon> I can't, libc6 is too old in chimaera
<tmlind> got glmark2 installed, did not have testing repo enabled.. but it won't start, produces Error: Failed to find suitable EGL config
<freemangordon> 32bpp?
<tmlind> i think so
<freemangordon> umm, is that glmark2-wl?
<tmlind> glmark2-es2-wayland --size 960x540
<freemangordon> weird
<freemangordon> dsc_: weather app is nice, good job :)
<freemangordon> but.. why Not Open?
<Wizzup> what is 'Not Open' ?
<freemangordon> NOMWeather
<Wizzup> oh, in the name
<freemangordon> mhm
<freemangordon> dsc_: also, maybe it is better if settings/about windows are stacked
<Wizzup> The application is called not open maemo weather because during development people kept referring to OMWeather (a legacy maemo application).
<dsc_> freemangordon: thanks, it needs some small UX improvements still
<dsc_> the QML that powers this weather app can only be described as spaghetti code, but I made it in a few days so.. :P
<freemangordon> mhm
<freemangordon> well, I guess that applies to all qml (and js in general) code, no? :p
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<dsc_> indeed, but this QML is even worse
<dsc_> ill change settings to stacked
<freemangordon> cool
<freemangordon> it is a matter of setting a property
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<tmlind> i give up on building earlier glmark2 for now.. depends on xdg-shell-client-protocol.h that seems to be only in qt6 dev here and would require uninstall a bunch of qt5 stuff..
<freemangordon> why don't you checkout some older version, as I did
<freemangordon> recent code seems to depend on oh-so-shiny stuff
<freemangordon> I hit the same issues back then, that's why I am using version from 2021 :)
<Wizzup> uvos__: if sphone could deal with dynamically added/removed backends, that would be great, btw
<tmlind> freemangrodon: i tried to build 2021.02
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<sicelo> arno11: my leste sd was misplaced by my SO. if you don't mind, please install gps-recorder ... should be in the repos. Then see what date it will fetch from the gps (you may need to watch for the gps fix, since i *think* the gps time only shows up as a transient notification). basically, i'd like to confirm if it's 2004-04-27. i will see if i can fix that to show correct date
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<sicelo> fmg: nice work regarding ants!
<sicelo> btw, i've seen them in fremantle too, a couple of days ago
* sicelo prods fmg in the direction of screen rotation on N900, and hides
<Wizzup> sicelo: seen ... ants hw bug on fremantle?
<sicelo> Yes, I was surprised tbh.
<Wizzup> heh
<Wizzup> btw, 6834 songs in OMP and it's all smooth :)
<freemangordon> sicelo: hmm
<freemangordon> if it persists, we may use the same workaround on N900
<freemangordon> please, keep an eye on it with latest DDX
<freemangordon> if you see it again, please LMK
<sicelo> i hardly use fremantle, but will note if i see it on Leste
<freemangordon> oh, on fremantle?!?
<Wizzup> yes that was my surprise too
<Wizzup> I haven't seen it on fremantle either
<freemangordon> Wizzup: ok, I'll try to find time to put XV support back in mafw
<freemangordon> so eventually we'll be able to move lots of things to stable as a new-year present for everyone :)
<freemangordon> Wizzup: oh, and we must find time to check what's going on with PPP h-d
<Wizzup> I can hook it up in 1-2 hours
<Wizzup> yup @ new year
<freemangordon> I won;t have time today, but that shouldn't stop you from booting leste on it :)
<Wizzup> I'll probably focus on conversations tonight if you're not avail
<Wizzup> made a lot of progress there and would like to keep that going
<freemangordon> sure
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<arno11> sicelo: currently looking @gps
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<arno11> can't get any sat, i'll try tomorrow in a better place.
<sicelo> sure :-)
<sicelo> you shouldn't live in tunnels :p
<arno11> lol indeed
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