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<Wizzup> arno11: I think it should work with haze too then
<Wizzup> arno11: interesting hack though :D
<Wizzup> uvos: I am getting this with your master + my commits on top, using qtloop: https://pastebin.com/raw/fTKAg39u
<Wizzup> I think err is unitialised
<Wizzup> yep that's it
<Wizzup> I pushed a fix to the existing pr for now
<ungeskriptet> Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone have experience with DPI panels? I have an old Galaxy S2 with OMAP 4430 and have trouble getting it to work. The panel just flashes shortly, turns black and then (sometimes) slowly fades to a brownish image. The DCS commands are being sent through SPI to mcspi4. It only has CS, SCLK and
<ungeskriptet> SIMO conncted. I even recompiled the downstream kernel to recreate the exact init seqeunce in mainline but no luck so far :/ Do I maybe need extra setup for using DPI panels on OMAP 4430?
<Wizzup> I think uvos, tmlind and freemangordon probably have experience with this, maybe not with this specific one though
<freemangordon> freemangordon shall be excluded
<freemangordon> :)
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<humanbeta> I upgraded sphone in my Pinephone and it doesn't start anymore and does not ring if somebody call.
<humanbeta> has somebody else same kind of problem? Or is it only with my installation.
<sicelo> mmm, only sphone?
<humanbeta> Sphone dialer and Sphone new sms and does not work. Good question when I tested last time Sphone because I havent use it as main phone, but somewhere october I remember it worked.
<buZz> humanbeta: any errors if you start those from commandline?
<Wizzup> humanbeta: I think it could be the problem I identified an hour ago or so
<Wizzup> can you start it from the console and see if it segfaults?
<humanbeta> buzz: Segmentation fault
<humanbeta> wizzup: yes it is that.
<Wizzup> humanbeta: let's see, uvos owns the pkg so I don't just want to push a fix, can you help me debug if it is the same problem?>
<Wizzup> can you do: sudo apt-get install sphone-dbgsym gdb
<Wizzup> and then 'gdb sphone'
<Wizzup> and then type 'run'
<Wizzup> and then when it crashes, type 'bt'
<humanbeta> ok..I try
<Wizzup> if not, it's ok, we'll try to push out a fix today, but it would be good to check that you're not seeing a different problem somehow
<humanbeta> I think line #0 is enough: #0  __strlen_generic () at ../sysdeps/aarch64/multiarch/../strlen.S:98
<Wizzup> do you have the rest of the backtrace?
<Wizzup> or is that difficult to share?
<Wizzup> but yes, it does look like the same problem
<Wizzup> freemangordon: what do you think, shall I push a fix to sphone and issue a new build?
<humanbeta> I think you dont need more than next line: #1  0x0000007ff7cd3728 in __vfprintf_internal (s=s@entry=0x7fffffc230, format=0x7ff0bae2f8 "%s: Can not create ebook: %s",
<humanbeta>     ap=..., mode_flags=<optimized out>) at vfprintf-internal.c:1647
<Wizzup> humanbeta: yes, this is the same problem
<Wizzup> humanbeta: ok I'll push a fix
<Wizzup> sec
<Wizzup> humanbeta: ok, in ~5-10 mins try apt update
<Wizzup> and apt upgrade
<humanbeta> ok, thanks.
<humanbeta> whou! it works after update! I even did not restart Pinephone. Thanks for support. I think Maemo Leste has the best phone OS support in the World..and only I need to get support was IRC in Maemo Leste phone.
<sicelo> :-)
<Wizzup> humanbeta: irc support is coming
<Wizzup> very soon
<dsc_> soon™
<humanbeta> :)
<dsc_> humanbeta: are you using 'conversations' ?
<dsc_> the chat program
<humanbeta> no..just thru web.libera.chat with Firefox.
<Wizzup> I doubt he'd be using it for irc yet
<Wizzup> also since tp-ring isn't integrate it also isn't used for sms yet
<Wizzup> integrated*
<humanbeta> I know Firefox is not lightest way use IRC with Pinephone.
<dsc_> there is a client in development for it, but its not really ready yet
<dsc_> called 'conversations'
<dsc_> soon™
<bencoh> meanwhile you could use irssi, or xchat, or ...
<humanbeta> have to test...or better not..I was hooked to IRC badly when I had too good client on Symbian S80 phone.
<sicelo> the good old S80 days, not to mention the awesome keyboard
<humanbeta> Pinephone keyboard is even better..I just wait official layout fix..tired fix after every restart.
<humanbeta> but I still miss Nokia 9500 size..Neo9500 with Maemo Leste someday?
<sicelo> --> Motorola Droid 4, I guess
<sicelo> btw, my D4's gpu likes to crash frequently lately. any ideas Wizzup?
<sicelo> it's not power ... this happened last night while it was charging. nothing was running, besides that i had connected to it via ssh.
<sicelo> unfortunately i have mistakenly closed the ssh window where the crash appeared
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<Wizzup> crash as in hang?
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<sicelo> yes
<sicelo> when i get back to it, screen is black, nothing shows, or there's a mouse cursor somewhere.
<sicelo> sometimes it recovers on its own.
<Wizzup> sicelo: I have seen this too, mostly with fullscreen apps
<Wizzup> more recently mpv and jib
<Wizzup> freemangordon: the osso-abook stuff you linked has a TpAccount arg
<Wizzup> I guess I'll need to go from ptqt's tp account to the glib tpaccont..
<Wizzup> account*
<freemangordon> perhaps
<freemangordon> hmm, wait
<freemangordon> just get uid from qt account
<freemangordon> and crate tpaccount from tha tuid
<freemangordon> lemme check
<freemangordon> osso_abook_account_manager_lookup_by_name()
<freemangordon> and friends
<freemangordon> check osso-abook-account-manager.h
<freemangordon> unless there is an easy way to go from qt tpaccount to glib tpaccount
<Wizzup> doubt it
<Wizzup> @ easy way
<freemangordon> well, then you have to either create new account manager or do osso_abook_account_manager_get_default() and wait for it to become ready before using it
<freemangordon> and then call some of the lookup functions
<freemangordon> do you want me to implement that?
<Wizzup> yes, maybe, but hang on for a bit (work mtg)
<Wizzup> I'm still trying to figure out where to add this code to conversations, will commit the cmake changes and then I'll poke you
<freemangordon> ok
<freemangordon> maybe I won't be able to do it later, I will go out
<Wizzup> if you can link me to some code where this is done already I can check it
<Wizzup> fun stuff, qt and gtk in one app, and telepathyqt and telepathy-glib, each with their own account managers :D
<freemangordon> yeah
<freemangordon> re example - what do you want to achieve?
<Wizzup> freemangordon: to get account manager set up and wait for it to be ready
<Wizzup> I guess
<Wizzup> btw, how does osso-abook use TpAccount?
<Wizzup> does it just get one property from it, or?
<Wizzup> at least in the call in question
<Wizzup> freemangordon: btw I can't find that function in osso-abook, just in the header
<Wizzup> I can find osso_abook_aggregator_find_contacts_for_phone_number
<Wizzup> so osso_abook_aggregator_find_contacts_for_sip_address and osso_abook_aggregator_find_contacts_for_im_contact I can't find in the src
<Wizzup> maybe they are not implemented yet?
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<lolcatw> tracker-extract process seems to be using most of the cpu on my nokia n900
<lolcatw> now that im looking at htop
<lolcatw> /usr/libexec/tracker-extract
<Wizzup> lolcatw: are you on -devel and upgraded?
<lolcatw> dist-upgrade required?
<lolcatw> i changed the repos and did apt update && upgrade
<lolcatw> otherwise yes, i am on devel
<lolcatw> yeah, it keeps randomly cranking cpu usage to 100% when i view it in htop
<sicelo> don't look :p
<bencoh> :D
<bencoh> tbh even on leste I end up killing tracker-indexer at every boot
<bencoh> s/leste/fremantle/
<lolcatw> whats the purpose of this process
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<bencoh> tracker-* track media files and whatnot, keep the media db up-to-date, build thumbnails, among other things (afair)
<Wizzup> lolcatw: please keep track of if the tracker will keep using cpu
<Wizzup> it should settle
<lolcatw> it uses 100% of the cpu every 5-10 seconds
<arno11> ? not normal
<lolcatw> my phone has been booted for atleast a day now, since it was charging
<arno11> usually it runs @100% for few sec after installing/removing stuff but that's all
<arno11> if it runs @100% every 10 sec, it explains slowness
<arno11> are you sure to be up-to-date?
<lolcatw> i did apt update and upgrade
<lolcatw> rebooted
<lolcatw> oh and i changed my sources.list
<arno11> ok
<Wizzup> arno11: that can be normal when indexing
<Wizzup> try tracker status -f
<Wizzup> sorry
<Wizzup> tracker daemon -f
<lolcatw> i omitted writing "droid4" in my sources.list, is that what's wrong
<Wizzup> or tracker status
<arno11> droid4 is not needed
<sicelo> and should absolutely not be there
<arno11> indeed
<lolcatw> what's the default password for ssh
<freemangordon> user
<freemangordon> user/user
<freemangordon> root/toor
<lolcatw> oh yeah im in thanks
<lolcatw> "user"
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<lolcatw> i thought it had failed
<freemangordon> bencoh: tracker-indexer on leste?
<bencoh> on fremantle*
<freemangordon> never had issues with it
<freemangordon> Wizzup: line 2327
<lolcatw> that's my sources.list ^^
<freemangordon> why did you enable experimental?
<freemangordon> lolcatw: ^^^
<lolcatw> because i was told to
<freemangordon> no, it was disabled
<Wizzup> freemangordon: yes, where is the im one?>
<Wizzup> osso_abook_aggregator_find_contacts_for_im_contact
<Wizzup> or osso_abook_aggregator_find_contacts_for_sip_address
<lolcatw> should i do a fresh install? If I remove it now i feel like my packages are going to be broken
<freemangordon> no
<freemangordon> just disable it
<freemangordon> Wizzup: lemme check
<freemangordon> Wizzup: hmm, yeah, it seems I have forgotten to RE those
<freemangordon> gimme some time
<lolcatw> what's the service name for file tracking
<freemangordon> no service
<lolcatw> is there no way to disable it?
<lolcatw> even through ssh this thing is so slow
<freemangordon> lolcatw: if you have issue, please help us fix it
<lolcatw> sure man
<freemangordon> yes, it is slow
<freemangordon> and tracker is not to blame
<lolcatw> well its the process using 100% of my cpu every 8 seconds or so, i assumed that was the culprit
<freemangordon> do you have put some music or video files?
<freemangordon> it should not do so
<lolcatw> there is one file in there
<lolcatw> danec2.webm
<lolcatw> 3mb file
<lolcatw> and i clone a repository for my chat client
<lolcatw> which contains lots of folders
<lolcatw> but not media files in there
<freemangordon> which process takes 100% cpu?
<arno11> lolcatw: what is your exact sdcard model btw ?
<freemangordon> trracker-miner, tracker-extract or tracker-store?
<freemangordon> yeah, that's another question worth answering
<lolcatw> tracker-extract
<freemangordon> because on a slow sdcard it will be even slower
<freemangordon> ok, could you run tracker daemon -f
<freemangordon> ok, not good
<freemangordon> could you do tracker daemon -t
<freemangordon> and then tracker-daemon -s
<freemangordon> to see if it will continue to use CPU
<lolcatw> sure
<lolcatw> a bunch more "extracting data" thingies popped up since i left that last command running
<lolcatw> dont know if that helps
<freemangordon> that media file, is it from here https://lolcat.ca/files/good%20music/ ?
<lolcatw> yes
<freemangordon> ok
<lolcatw> but it did that cpu usage even before i added that file
<freemangordon> what tracker-daemon -f does?
<freemangordon> ah
<freemangordon> ok, lets reset tracker db then
<lolcatw> yeah, -f does
<lolcatw> tracker daemon -s sort of freezes my ssh session
<freemangordon> does what? still showing extract every few seconds?
<lolcatw> yea
<lolcatw> it does that
<freemangordon> ok, lets try tracker reset -r
<lolcatw> ok i did that
<lolcatw> monitoring cpu usage right now
<freemangordon> /usr/bin/mafw.sh stop mafw-tracker-source
<freemangordon> /usr/bin/mafw.sh start mafw-tracker-source
<lolcatw> ok still seeing 100% cpu usage every uhh
<lolcatw> right now its capped at 100%
<freemangordon> wait
<freemangordon> that's normal
<freemangordon> it rebuilds the databse
<lolcatw> lol ok
<freemangordon> run tracker daemon -f
<freemangordon> and tell me what it says
<freemangordon> looks good
<freemangordon> if it stays like that, it is ok
<lolcatw> it is far better now
<lolcatw> its idling at 8%
<lolcatw> thanks man
<freemangordon> np
<freemangordon> seems you tracker db was corrupted somehow
<lolcatw> all i did was clone rena client from my gitea
<lolcatw> and download that one file
<freemangordon> hard to say what made it corrupt
<lolcatw> i know rena client has lots of submodules installed through npm, so that might be why
<lolcatw> i will keep you posted about the issue
<freemangordon> ah, wait
<freemangordon> if there are help files/readmes etc etc
<freemangordon> tracker might want to extract them as well
<freemangordon> because it supports full-text-search
<freemangordon> anyway
<lolcatw> tracker needs some bug fixing lo
<freemangordon> unfortunately we use soem old version
<lolcatw> theres an .md file in tehre
<lolcatw> and a screenshot.png file
<freemangordon> that's no longer maintained
<freemangordon> ok, so then it is normal
<freemangordon> it will index/extract all those
<freemangordon> keep in mind tracker runs with very low cpu/io priority
<freemangordon> could you answer the question about your uSD card model?
<freemangordon> lolcatw: ^
<lolcatw> its some off brand thing, but im pretty sure its still quite fast
<freemangordon> that's not enough
<lolcatw> is there a way to check in the cli or do i have to remove the sd card from there
<lolcatw> i have this samsung EVO one
<freemangordon> afaik you have to remove it
<lolcatw> mkay lemme do that right now
* freemangordon does the same
<lolcatw> its a
<lolcatw> NEXXTECH microSD HC 16GB class 10
<freemangordon> heh
<freemangordon> arno11: ^^^
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<arno11> definitely too slow
<lolcatw> ill try with my samsung one
<freemangordon> sandisk extreme 128GB A2 V30 XC1 U3 here
<lolcatw> ok the samsung one is a 64GB u3 EVO
<arno11> :)
<freemangordon> arno11: mine should be ok, right?
<lolcatw> is 64gb too big?
<freemangordon> no
<lolcatw> ok nice
<lolcatw> i will flash it right now
<arno11> freemangordon: yes :)
<freemangordon> see mine ^^^, it is 128
<arno11> no card are too big
<lolcatw> i have to admit, i might've flashed the wrong image since someone was surprised it was using devuan
<lolcatw> what image do you people use?
<freemangordon> no
<freemangordon> we *are* using devuan as a base
<lolcatw> oh oh oh
<lolcatw> thats the ISO i need, correct?
<freemangordon> why don;t you just copy your old card to the new one?
<freemangordon> and then expand rootfs to 64 GB
<lolcatw> i only have 1 sd card reader
<lolcatw> unless i can dd the image to a file
<freemangordon> mhm
<lolcatw> yeah ill just dd a fresh image on there
<arno11> lolcatw: i recommend you to disable apt-worker after your first boot (see wiki) ;)
<lolcatw> awesome thanks
<freemangordon> arno11: not really a good idea, that way no update notifications will be issueds
<lolcatw> but that is the right image to use right
<freemangordon> should be
<freemangordon> if it is the last one
<lolcatw> mkay
<arno11> freemangordon: agree but it is slowing down n900 to much on fresh install
<arno11> ofc if wifi is on
<Wizzup> it runs like once a week or so
<Wizzup> freemangordon: maybe we should start moving some things to stable, incl. tracker fixes (if not already)
<arno11> Wizzup: yes indeed but when it runs n900 is not usable for at least 3 min :D
<freemangordon> arno11: well, make a PR fixing it CPU/IO pri then
<lolcatw> yeah that new sdcard is way faster
<lolcatw> 37.9mb/s
<freemangordon> instead of telling users to "just disable it" :)
<freemangordon> Wizzup: agree
<freemangordon> afaik there are no outstanding issues
<arno11> freemangordon: true, not a bad idea lol
<Wizzup> I got four u3 cards yesterday btw
<Wizzup> enough for testing :)
<arno11> lucky man
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<Wizzup> no I mean I got them from the shop :)
<freemangordon> :)
<arno11> ok :) which model ?
<Wizzup> some sandisk ones
<arno11> ok cool
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<freemangordon> building for stable now
<lolcatw> oh my god i've been trying to flash the image for an hour now
<lolcatw> i dont know why it doesn't work
<lolcatw> sudo dd if=~/Desktop/maemo.img.xz of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1M status=progress
<lolcatw> it says it copied everything, but when i look in gparted it's just a big partition that says "unallocated"
<lolcatw> i also made sure to unmount the sd card as well
<lolcatw> what am i doing wrong
<sicelo> xzcat ~/Desktop/maemo.img.xz | sudo dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1M status=progress
<freemangordon> kernel has to re-read partition table, afaik
<sicelo> they're 'burning' a direct .xz :-)
<arno11> indeed
<freemangordon> ah, right
<freemangordon> :)
<lolcatw> afaik as soon as you flash it the kernel detects both volumes
<lolcatw> ok ill try booting now
<sicelo> you used the command i gave you?
<lolcatw> yup
<lolcatw> works now
<lolcatw> kernel loads in
<freemangordon> don't forget to extend rootfs
<lolcatw> yeah its faster now
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<arno11> more faster after reboot
<arno11> don't forget to dist-upgrade to devel
<lolcatw> will do
<arno11> :)
<lolcatw> yeah debian update on my local system broke my irc client
<lolcatw> brb
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<arno11> Wizzup: for the bitlbee hack: btw it works nicely with conversations AND notifications. to connect i just need to set availability to online, using the applet, really cool :)
<bencoh> arno11: conversations <--> bitlbee to access other libpurple protocols?
<arno11> yep
<arno11> bitlbee on localhost
<arno11> then irc set to localhost in conversations
<arno11> this way fb messenger works :)
<lolcatw> so cool
<arno11> and theorically telegram, signal, x
<arno11> even whatsapp
<lolcatw> ok i did the upgrade
<lolcatw> 8% idle again
<arno11> cool
<lolcatw> before upgrade it was at 10-20%
<lolcatw> thats awesome thanks everyone for the help
<arno11> because now system runs @16bpp
<lolcatw> bpp's?
<Wizzup> arno11: yeah I think telepathy-haze will be better
<arno11> xorg default depth in bit per pixel
<Wizzup> but still a cool setup nonetheless
<Wizzup> freemangordon: ty
<arno11> Wizzup: ofc haze will be better but not easy to find and run the right plugins
<Wizzup> arno11: hm?
<Wizzup> arno11: haze does the exact same as bitlbee
<Wizzup> just for telepathy instead of irc
<Wizzup> it loads libpurple plugins
<Wizzup> or do you mean to actually get it set up :)
<arno11> yeah i mean to setup
<arno11> otherwise yeah that's the same stuff
<Wizzup> yeah, currently for sure
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<Wizzup> I guess so
<arno11> Wizzup: i've been able to build and hack a libpurple facebook plugin version working on n900 (it already works through pidgin). My question is why the plugin is not visible in 'voip and im accounts' ?
<Wizzup> for it to show up in a UI it also needs a plugin for control panel
<arno11> ah ok
<Wizzup> yeah, you'll have to work on it using mc-tool for now\
<arno11> ok
<arno11> thx :)
<Wizzup> freemangordon: using osso_abook_aggregator_get_default and osso_abook_aggregator_find_contacts_for_phone_number I can't lookup my phone number to my contact
<arno11> Wizzup: tyvm !
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<Wizzup> arno11: probably not hard to make one for the fb plugin
<arno11> yes i think so (it needs very few parameters)
<Wizzup> there are various xmpp plugins
<Wizzup> so you can probably just take those
<Wizzup> just change the protocol and the names
<Wizzup> sicelo: arno11: building new libcmtspeechdata
<arno11> ok cool :)
<arno11> bbabl
<Wizzup> freemangordon: looking at yappary and rtcom-eventlogger-ui for examples atm
<Wizzup> freemangordon: ah I guess I need some glib loop to wait for it to be ready
<Wizzup> freemangordon: ok have it working now
<arno11> Wizzup: btw it is not xmpp anymore for fb but mqtt
<Wizzup> ok
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<Wizzup> sicelo: managed to set up github 2fa immediately with the new maeotp
<Wizzup> :)
<Wizzup> as in, the defaults were good
<sicelo> great! i think it's quite decent application now. with clipboard handling added, it gets perfect
<sicelo> and of course, maeotp works on almost any 2FA. i use it for Microsoft services
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: yes, as I said, you shall wait for waitable to be ready
<freemangordon> either osso_abook_waitable_call_when_ready() or osso_abook_waitable_is_ready() and a loop
<freemangordon> ofc osso_abook_waitable_call_when_ready() is better
<arno11> Wizzup: thx for your help, my custom plugin works with telepathy with the help of mc-tool :)
<arno11> even the fb icon appears in hildon availability applet
<arno11> so it means that mqtt protocol works with telepathy/conversations
<lolcatw> are you also using a nokia n900?
<arno11> yes
<lolcatw> are we on the same ISO? maybe i will try right now
<arno11> my iso is really old but up to date with very last stuff
<arno11> the best option for you atm is pidgin
<arno11> i can help you if you want
<lolcatw> i'll try on my own first
<freemangordon> arno11: hmm, we already have control panel (accounts-ui) plugin for tp-haze, do you use something different?
<lolcatw> but i suppose apt install pidgin should just werk
<freemangordon> sorry, I missed all the discussion about it
<arno11> no probs
<arno11> lolcatw: nope
<arno11> you need to install pidgin then a custon plugin
<arno11> *custom
<arno11> and then add your account
<freemangordon> ah, I see now
<freemangordon> arno11: I will create accounts-ui plugin once that custom plugin is in the repos
<arno11> ok really cool
<freemangordon> where is the code?
<arno11> let me check (not easy from the n900)
<freemangordon> oh, no hurry
<freemangordon> we can continue tomorrow as well
<freemangordon> it is late here anyway
<lolcatw> what irc client do you people use on the n900
<lolcatw> should i just link my account in the settings
<freemangordon> you shall wait few more days until Wizzup finishes the conversations
<freemangordon> I think right now you cannot join a room
<arno11> yes indeed
<arno11> freemangordon: yes it's late, better tomorrow
<freemangordon> ok
<freemangordon> night!
<arno11> but it works :)
<arno11> night
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: will have to figure out how to get it in qtloop I guess
<Wizzup> arno11: care to pr for it?
<lolcatw> trying out surf2 browser
<lolcatw> has anyone else tried it?
<uvos> its slow
<uvos> old firefox-esr (78xx) or jib or qtwebbrowser is mutch better
<lolcatw> which one do you recommend
<lolcatw> the most
<lolcatw> i just need to look at static web pages
<uvos> i dunno what device you use, on d4 any of those work well altho old firefox is fastest and has the most features, so i use that.
<uvos> on n900 none of those will work
<uvos> on n900 nothing will really work
<lolcatw> i was at least expecting to be able to access 4get homepage ;-;
<uvos> you can try jib, but it will most likely be unbreable slow even on simple websites on account of running out of ram
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<arno11> lolcatw: plz try links2 :)
<arno11> and then run it with links2 -g
<lolcatw> ogey
<arno11> and then ctl shift N
<arno11> to disable compo
<uvos> sure links will work
<uvos> but its ui is pretty bad on a phone
<uvos> also ofc links limits the possible range of websites
<arno11> works on almost any website actually
<arno11> but static
<arno11> ofc
<lolcatw> for screenshots, qshot will work correct?
<arno11> yes it's ok
<uvos> scrot is mostly more usefull
<uvos> like sleep 3; scrot
<lolcatw> scrot doesnt work with opengl stuff
<uvos> ?
<uvos> it absolutly works with anything
<lolcatw> on my machine anyways
<arno11> Wizzup: for pr, sure
<uvos> something is really wierd on your machine
<uvos> it just uses x11 to get the root window
<uvos> this works on anything
<uvos> all x11 screenshot tools work like this
<uvos> there actually isent anything else you could do as non-root
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<Wizzup> uvos: great @ sphone commit
<uvos> not sure where you will get the functions for random protocolls
<uvos> maybe tp has sutch a feature
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<Wizzup> uvos: well right now we mostly know what we support
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