<midfavila>
i've been buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusy
<midfavila>
still wrapping up the move
<midfavila>
just got my first professional certification like, a week ago
<midfavila>
etc
<midfavila>
how've you been sad_plan?
<sad_plan>
awesome
<sad_plan>
ive been good. I recently switched to oasis, but with kiss. im still running the same setup, but using oasis as a base, as opposed to a kiss tarball
<midfavila>
but tbqh in terms of concrete ideas i haven't got a clue any more
<midfavila>
i haven't bothered thinking about that stuff in ages
<midfavila>
too busy
<sad_plan>
right. never really liked ed, as I like having visuals. but im sure I could get used to it aswell for smaller stuff
<sad_plan>
I get that
<midfavila>
that's why i like se
<midfavila>
for longer editing sessions se is great because you still get visual feedback
<midfavila>
but also
<midfavila>
like
<midfavila>
.-15,.+15p
<sad_plan>
can you actually see the content of the file in its whole? like with vi
<midfavila>
yes
<midfavila>
it's like vi but inside out
<midfavila>
i guess?
<midfavila>
it's weird
<sad_plan>
lol
<midfavila>
a very literal adaption of ed to a graphics mode
<midfavila>
that's for sure
<midfavila>
i guess my first goal would be to create a SUS-compliant implementation of ed that's just super clean
<sad_plan>
its a start I guess. I like vis though. been using it for quite some time now actually
<midfavila>
then once that's done add a line editing library
<midfavila>
then go from there
<midfavila>
i think i tried vis
<sad_plan>
not your cup of tea? ive mentioned you dont like vi generally
<midfavila>
yeah i kind of sort of despise vi lmao
<midfavila>
it's clunky as shit
<midfavila>
vi keys are super uncomfortable
<midfavila>
and command-based editing is much more powerful than line-based editing, and vi has always felt like it prioritizes line editing over command editing
<sad_plan>
I like it. I was using vim before, but vis' multicursor was a real gamechanger for me. so it stuck with me really
<midfavila>
se is the opposite of vi in that sense so
<sad_plan>
vis does have commands though, but maybe not as many as youd like? or missing lots of them
<sad_plan>
I see
<midfavila>
don't recall vis, but i like ed's command language because it's simple and orthogonal
<midfavila>
you've got a handful of commands and some simple flow control structures and by combining those you can get plenty of stuff done quickly and easily
<sad_plan>
hm. I see
<midfavila>
okay well,
<midfavila>
i'm gonna brb
<midfavila>
i need to get my dr pepper zero fix
<midfavila>
my new apartment is above a corner store and they know exactly what they're doing
<sad_plan>
been a really long time since ive heard people drink that stuff
<sad_plan>
decent
<midfavila>
i drink a shitload of pepper zero
<midfavila>
like 2gal plus a week
<midfavila>
an unironic addiction
<midfavila>
it's so fucking goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
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<sewn>
hi midfavila
<sewn>
where have you been
<sewn>
is it time for me to return to kiss?
<sewn>
the most important muon patches are slowly getting merged
<sewn>
and I want to get it done
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<riteo>
oh wow it's been a while
<riteo>
icebarf_: I haven't forgotten of the pictures yesterday it eventually became late and I fell asleep
<riteo>
gotta take the camera as I _refuse_ taking pictures from my smartphone, call me dumb for now
<riteo>
I hate those things
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<sewn>
riteo: pull out your retro camera and take a pic
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<icebarf_>
sewn: what you been using currently?
<sewn>
alpine
<icebarf_>
i see
<icebarf_>
im trying to work with flatpak, trying out vscode on kiss
<icebarf_>
dbus form kiss-dbus (community repo) was fairly easy to setup
<icebarf_>
apparently "portal does not support export-pids" is the main PITA for me now
<icebarf_>
(oof that apparently is misplaced)
<icebarf_>
anyway, i grepped around the sources for zypak and flatpak but didn't see anything of use (almost midnight for me rn)
<icebarf_>
so maybe ill have a look tomorrow
<icebarf_>
sewn: hbu? what are you working on?
<sewn>
working on what
<icebarf_>
yeah, working on what?
<icebarf_>
like anything
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