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<phinxy>
How to mount FTP or fetch a dir from there?
<phinxy>
Alpines curlftpfs is a good start, I guess
<phinxy>
Busybox might have had `ftp`.
<wael_>
Hi
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<testuser[m]>
hi
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<vouivre>
Hi
<vouivre>
I would like to understand why the package manager works differently on two different computers
<vouivre>
my first question: is kiss supposed to be used as root or as a user ?
<midfavila>
you can use the package manager as either, but if you're a regular user you need to provide a privilege escalation utility
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<vouivre>
ok
<vouivre>
On one system if update with `kiss update` as a user, I don't need to enter my password
<vouivre>
on the other system I need to enter my root password
<vouivre>
on both system `su` is used to change to root
<midfavila>
do both systems use shadow?
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<testuser[m]>
vouivre: maybe you forgot to extract the tarball as root on the first system so
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<vouivre>
midfavila: you mean the file /etc/shadow is on the system ?
<midfavila>
no, I mean the shadow package
<midfavila>
if one uses shadow's privilege escalation tools and another uses a different implementation, then there might be differences there. idk
<vouivre>
testuser[m]: maybe. How is it possible to check it ?
<midfavila>
if they're both fresh tarballs then testuser's probably closer to the mark
<midfavila>
you should be able to just ls -alh after kiss chroot'ing into it
<testuser[m]>
vouivre: ls -l /
<vouivre>
but to chroot I need to be root. So ls -l / should always work.
<midfavila>
that's the point
<midfavila>
it tells you who owns what files
<midfavila>
so if you need to access files that root doesn't own as a non-root user, you'd probably end up trying to escalate privileges to the user that owns those files... i think
<midfavila>
(I don't use su or multiple users)
<vouivre>
sorry, I'm stupid..... I had in mind ls -lRh /
<midfavila>
misremembering doesn't make you stupid
<midfavila>
mistakes are normal
<vouivre>
now, if I want to update without giving a password, my only solution is to update as root ?
<vouivre>
midfavila: thank you for your kind comment
<midfavila>
if you want to bypass providing a password to su during a system update, yes, that would be correct
<midfavila>
you can also look into alternative privilege escalation tools
<midfavila>
i use 'sup' myself
<vouivre>
I come back later, thank you for your comments.
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<vouivre>
midfavila: thank you for suggesting sup. I'll have a look at it.
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