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<testuser[m]> Hi
<testuser[m]> My interests are in Front End Engineering and I love to create beautiful performant products with delightful user experiences.
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<testuser[m]> On the 4000th day G*d added generics to Go and he saw that it was good. Inshallah Mr DeVault will add type safe collections to his language 5, 10 years from now when he is done fixing the segfaults.
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<testuser[m]> Mhm. Thank you so much. I'm going to be just so bloody thrilled when it's time to convert my eighth HashMap implementation, ripped out from three other projects of mine, from <string, i32> to <string, i8>. And this bastard of a language doesn't even leave me with a crippled search-and-replace macro system to help me with this in the smallest way.3 I could use void * pointers as in C, but hell, if I enjoyed doing that I'd just
<testuser[m]> use C instead.
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<midfavila> sometimes I feel like you're just an incredibly advanced Markov chain, testuser[m] :v
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<testuser[m]> The rust stuff is insane. Like, they've won the hype war. Ive started some popcorn, it should be done in about 10 years when the bashing begins. I hope everyone switches to like, Perl 6 or something. In fact, Id pay for like these "tech influencers" to shill Perl 6. Get idk google or something on board. It would be hilarious.
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<voiduser> is a test message
<voiduser> hi everyone
<voiduser> i install kiss linux with alpines kernel config all works fine but wireless adapter don't work whats wrong?
<noocsharp> did you install the wifi firmware?
<voiduser> i install all firmwares from linux-firmware archive
<voiduser> i know my English is very bad but i think you can understand me
<noocsharp> yes i can :)
<voiduser> just am not native speaker, am from worst country now
<ioraff> have you loaded the kernel module appropriate for your wifi card?
<voiduser> this is like modprobe *module-name*
<voiduser> yep
<voiduser> so what could be the issue? also i use tinyramfs with standart alpine kernel config
<ioraff> have you looked at dmesg? e.g. 'dmesg | grep *module-name*
<voiduser> ioraff thanks! I made a mistake in the name when I included the module my card shoulbe use RTL8821CE, but i enable module for RTL8821AE
<voiduser> exit
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<voiduser> guys what do you think about Dylan? what is he working on?
<voiduser> 402 contributions for a last time
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<voiduser> btw i am from russia
<voiduser> this is a whorst country in the Europe
<voiduser> *worst
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<phoebos> ugh why are PKGBUILDs in bash
<phoebos> TIL bash arrays are ugly as fuck
<phoebos> foo=(a b c)
<phoebos> rank
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<madmuha> hello people, thinking of installing kiss to my main machine since im trying to learn more about linuxes in general, and i want something thats not bloated and for that reason probably even more secure... Ill probably be asking some questions in the next days :) Is the distro maintained?
<noocsharp> atm dylan is not maintaining it, but the community is
<madmuha> cool! Is there a lot of work maintaining it? Asking since its pretty minimal... (sorry, i have no idea about what u guys are doing, i hope ill learn and even be able to participate)
<madmuha> is there somewhere an official kiss irc?
<noocsharp> mostly just changing a few files when new version of packages are released, but for some packages its more involved
<noocsharp> there is no official kiss irc
<madmuha> do packages break often?
<phoebos> this is the officially unofficial irc
<madmuha> hahah cool XD
<phoebos> > do packages break often
<phoebos> big ones yes
<phoebos> less bloated ones, no
<madmuha> i never used something based on busybox. This will be my first time.
<madmuha> what about webkit? im using surf browser so im asking...
<madmuha> its pretty bloated..
<phoebos> webkit is in community, so there's someone maintaining it for you
<phoebos> https://github.com/ehawkvu/kiss-xorg has surf packaged
<madmuha> cool. sorry if ill ask some stupid questions btw..
<phoebos> nw
<madmuha> thanks dude.
<madmuha> does anyone know does freenet work ok on kiss? im planing to do a lot of things with it so i wonder..
<madmuha> aham
<phoebos> it's java, which can be a pain
<phoebos> but give it a go
<madmuha> how can i learn to maintain something? what do i need to know for that? sorry if its a stupid question, but do i need to know every line of package code to be able to maintain it for lets say kiss?
<phoebos> have a look at some existing packages. you need a shell script called build, a version file, a sources file, and probably a checksums and depends file
<phoebos> they do what it sounds like
<phoebos> the sources are extracted, build is run in the dir of the sources, and the "$1" argument in the build script is the dir you need to install files to
<madmuha> doesnt look complicated! cool. ill have fun with installing kiss tomorow. Thanks!
<madmuha> what terminal do u guys prefer for wayland? is there something ST like?
<madmuha> minimal as st lets say... I know there is DWL, wayland dwm so to speak.
<madmuha> but what about terminals?
<phoebos> foot is nice
<madmuha> is there some way to hardened packages? In gentoo there is a gcc hardened profile for exsample. that has nothing to do with gentoo, but gcc right?
<madmuha> I was thinking about trying out alpine or Kiss, but i dont like the idea of binary distro..
<phoebos> use openbsd :p
<phoebos> you can do whatever you want to make your packages more secure
<phoebos> probably the main changes you'd make are in your compiler and your kernel config
<madmuha> hahah openbsd is cool, yeah xD
<madmuha> used it before.. But its a bit too slow... my hardware is also 14 years old. Used Openbsd but i was using inkscape a lot at the time and it was too slow, so i moved to linux again..
<madmuha> does inkscape or lets say gimp run well here? I really dont use a lot of software but sometimes i need this ones