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<noocsharp> have you tried the oberon vm?
<testuser[m]> Hi
<noocsharp> o/
<travankor> plan9 conviently borrowed a lot of ideas from oberon
<testuser[m]> linux00: works just fine
<testuser[m]> rebuild mpv to a new commit maybe
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<testuser[m]> Unless you are paid to read papers and implement cutting edge stuff, your time is better spent leetcoding that has a direct short term impact on maximizing your TC.
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<linux00> testuser[m]: ok, thanks
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<acheam> noocsharp: no but I'd like to
<acheam> looks cool
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<noocsharp> acme is ripped straight out of oberon basically
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<acheam> test
<acheam> epic
<noocsharp> ??
<acheam> was just testing something
<acheam> switched from chat.sr.ht to my own znc bouncer
<testuser[m]> Rich
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<noocsharp> oh no, i might finally have to learn lisp
<noocsharp> lilypond uses it as an extension language
<noocsharp> scheme that is
<testuser[m]> noocsharp: is nkiss permanently abandoned?
<noocsharp> it's unlikely that i'll work on it again, but iirc it's pretty close to being usable
<noocsharp> feel free to pick it up if you want
<tleydxdy[m]> lisp good
<testuser[m]> (no)
<acheam> both lilypond and lisp are very cool
<acheam> besides lilypond being gnu
<acheam> this is also gross
<acheam> > LilyPond is mostly written in C++ and uses Scheme (interpreted by GNU Guile) as its extension language, allowing for user customization.[12] It has a relatively large codebase; as of March 10, 2017, the source includes over 600,000 lines of C++, 140,000 lines of Scheme, and 120,000 lines of Python code.[13]
<phoebos> abc ftw
<acheam> but I enjoyed using it when I needed to transcribe some stuff
<testuser[m]> Wtf
<testuser[m]> How do u even maintain so much code
<acheam> hmm idk how I feel about the abc syntax
<acheam> I like how lilypond is sort of like latex
<acheam> testuser[m]: maintained may be an overstatement.... I think its just continually grown over its 30 years of existence
<testuser[m]> Hmm
<phoebos> abc is (reasonably) small(er)
<testuser[m]> Do gnu people get paid
<testuser[m]> For this kind of stuff
<testuser[m]> Ig gcc is funded by redhat
<acheam> I dont think so?
<acheam> beyond the staff listed here I dont think they pay anyone, but I could be wrong. https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board
<noocsharp> my understanding is lilypond is just a bunch of hacks to make beautiful sheet music
<noocsharp> phoebos: what is abc?
<phoebos> noocsharp: https://abcnotation.com/
<phoebos> pretty much just write the notes with modifiers for note length, ties, etc and there are various tools to compile it into sheet music or midi files
<phoebos> eg. a-g is one octave, A-G is one up, A2 is a double length A, z is a rest
<noocsharp> it seems like abc is to roff as lilypond is to tex
<phoebos> ^
<phoebos> hehe yeah
<phoebos> been trying neatroff recently
<noocsharp> i used neatroff for some papers this year
<phoebos> i think there's an error in the neatroff_make Makefile install target
<phoebos> which causes pdf fonts to be borked
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<noocsharp> i just run it from the directory itself
<noocsharp> using one of those example makefiles
<phoebos> that seems to be the recommended method, i was surprised that someone hadn't noticed it before
<phoebos> what macros do you use
<phoebos> if any
<noocsharp> just the default ones
<noocsharp> i think?
<noocsharp> does a pretty good job at settings basic text
<noocsharp> but i'm using lilypond for some pretty convoluted stuff that probably wouldn't be possible with abc
<phoebos> quite possibly
<acheam> are we gonna get more Sound of Nihal's?
<phoebos> noocsharp: did you get around to setting up xmpp?
<noocsharp> kind of, i tried to send you a message but it seems like it didn't go through, so i have some diagnosing to do
<noocsharp> acheam: i have so many half baked ideas but nothing complete
<acheam> heh our project pages are very similar
<noocsharp> i took inspiration from yours
<phoebos> hehe they are very similar
<acheam> :)
<testuser[m]> noocsharp: ur server died after transmitting 14mb of a file
<phoebos> i added some options to stagit_index to include html before/after the repo list, been meaning to write more there
<testuser[m]> November.flac
<acheam> I cant reproduce
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<testuser[m]> Wrong channel
<testuser[m]> Ok it was my shinternet only
<testuser[m]> 100mbps moment
<acheam> oof
<noocsharp> isn't it the most beautiful thing you've ever heard
<testuser[m]> Its gppd
<testuser[m]> Good
<testuser[m]> Pitch seems a bit too high tho
<acheam> theres something weird with the metadata by the way
<noocsharp> i need to get better at balancing
<acheam> the title in the flac file of november.flac is "October"
<noocsharp> lol oops
<acheam> damn 0:49 hits hard
<acheam> what software do you use for this?
<noocsharp> ardour
<noocsharp> but now i've switched to qtractor
<noocsharp> ardour crashed far too often
<acheam> nide
<acheam> nice
<noocsharp> and my trusty, completely unreliable midi keyboard
<acheam> your Trigger?
<noocsharp> in multiple ways
<acheam> heh
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<phoebos> ew, why does sudo and doas, even ssu not set $PWD by default
<phoebos> illiliti:
<acheam> does anyone actually use lighttpd anymore?
<phinxy> have anyone built Blender for Wayland?
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