00:00 <doggy_breath> Oh, and one other question: I've never used Wayland. Will the community download of dwm work with that?

00:02 <tleydxdy[m]> dwm is X only

00:03 <tleydxdy[m]> wayland is still a huge mess imo

00:04 <doggy_breath> OK. Sooo...does the community repo have X?

00:09 <tleydxdy[m]> I think so

00:11 <doggy_breath> So if kiss is using Wayland (which is the impression I got from the website) and Wayland is a mess, are you guys running kiss with wayland, and is your computer a mess?

00:16 <phoebos> doggy_breath: you're very welcome to ask for help here :)

00:17 <phoebos> https://github.com/ehawkvu/kiss-xorg is a maintained repo for X stuff

00:17 <tleydxdy[m]> my kiss install just doesn't have have any gui

00:18 <phoebos> i am a mess

00:18 <phoebos> my computer is a mess

00:18 <doggy_breath> phoebos thanks. I have to have X for work, because I work online and my employer's interface uses js

00:19 <phoebos> x is also a mess :p

00:19 <phoebos> wayland doesn't stop javascript from working...

00:19 <doggy_breath> phoebos does wayland work? That's all I care.

00:20 <doggy_breath> When I'm not working, I just use a tty usually

00:21 <phoebos> yes, there are occasional bugs but they've mostly been worked out. it's still not necessarily an improvement, so use whatever you want

00:21 <tleydxdy[m]> depends, if you use a ime then wayland doesn't really work

00:21 <tleydxdy[m]> screen capture is half broken too

00:21 <tleydxdy[m]> lots of things like that

00:22 <tleydxdy[m]> maybe try out wayland using something like arch first see if you have all the use case covered

00:23 <doggy_breath> I may use void, and buy a separate laptop to experiment with kiss. Work computer has to be rock solid.

03:11 <testuser[m]> Hi

12:00 <phoebos> dilyn: https://tmp.bvnf.space/0001-neomutt-bump-to-20220408.patch

12:05 <phoebos> testuser[m]: would you consider installing /etc/axelrc in the axel package?

12:06 <phoebos> also harfbuzz-icu in community is quite outdated

12:06 <testuser[m]> I dropped all the webshitgtk related stuff

12:06 <testuser[m]> phoebos: ok

16:20 <rohan> yo

16:20 <rohan> how do i enable i2c touchpad in kernel?

16:53 <soliwilos> rohan: Probably more than you need, but this should help: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Dell_Inspiron_15_5515#Touchpad_.26_touch_screen

17:50 <testuser[m]> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Kernel-Driver-Source

17:50 <testuser[m]> Clickbait link

18:01 <soliwilos> Wasn't there a huge nvidia source dump posted online some while back?

18:03 <testuser[m]> It was useless

18:04 <testuser[m]> This one is too

18:08 <testuser[m]> But more relevant

18:18 <testuser[m]> https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2022/04/07/1