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<davidlt[m]> Interesting dive into how Rust/Cargo stuff works in Fedora
<davidlt[m]> I am a bit puzzled looking at device-mapper-persistent-data
<davidlt[m]> It uses vendored code, deps are updated by dmpd090-vendor3.tar.gz (12M) tarball.
<davidlt[m]> There are static libraries (*.a) for winapi.
<davidlt[m]> I don't think it complies with the Fedora Rust packaging rules.
<davidlt[m]> You should avoid using vendor code (i.e. bundled) in the package, but there are exception rule for this.
<davidlt[m]> But then it should contain: Provides: bundled(crate(foo)) = version, which is not the case.
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<davidlt[m]> Not sure fully, but created a ticket: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2144740
<davidlt[m]> Right know it definitely doesn't look good to me.
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<rwmjones> morning
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<davidlt[m]> Just a quick updated, I think around half of packages are done.
<davidlt[m]> I hope to get most (if not all) rebuilt before I go to sleep.
<davidlt[m]> How is this a thing?
<davidlt[m]> > <decathorpe> davidlt: some packagers in Fedora decided to not work with us, don't tell us about what they're doing, and explicitly ignore our rules. so there's probably not many things we can do about that ...
<davidlt[m]> Conan Kudo: do you know anything about this?
* Eighth_Doctor sighs
<davidlt[m]> I am wondering if I am stepping into some known political/social division or something.
<Eighth_Doctor> this is Red Hatters deliberately ignoring Fedora packaging rules
<Eighth_Doctor> because they straight-import from RHEL, where nobody does any peer review
<Eighth_Doctor> and nobody regularly checks for compliance with packaging guidelines
<davidlt[m]> How is that a thing? Is there some exception list or something?
<Eighth_Doctor> no, it's not allowed
<Eighth_Doctor> it just happens anyway
<Eighth_Doctor> you should have rwmjones give the LVM/DM folks a talking-to
<davidlt[m]> I am not sure how this could happen :)
<davidlt[m]> Well in reality once you spend years rebuilding Fedora you learn a lot about distro :)
<Eighth_Doctor> hehe
<davidlt[m]> Could FESCo or anyone block such things and force the change?
<Eighth_Doctor> maybe?
<Eighth_Doctor> FESCo is where this kind of conflict resolution is supposed to happen
<davidlt[m]> I don't understand how no one fixed this yet, but in reality there are a lot of things that need cleanup in Fedora.
<Eighth_Doctor> I have my own personal beef with this package: it's actually thin-provisioning-tools, but it's been named device-mapper-persistent-data for god knows how long in Fedora
<davidlt[m]> Sometimes I think that it would be nice to self apply for FESCo, but not sure if that's any fun.
<Eighth_Doctor> step up!
<Eighth_Doctor> it'd be good to have someone who has holistic distro expertise :)
<davidlt[m]> I wonder if I even comply with requirements..
* davidlt[m] checks email...
<davidlt[m]> So it's all about group memberships.
<davidlt[m]> Ech, https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ , "Application is not available"
<davidlt[m]> I guess that would work.
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<Eighth_Doctor> you just need to run for fesco election
<Eighth_Doctor> I think that started now?
<davidlt[m]> Conan Kudo: yes, deadline is Nov 30 IIRC.
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<davidlt[m]> Ok, most packages were fixed. Still a few left, a few more added, but in general mostly done.
<davidlt[m]> (unless I broke something, I don't know yet).
<davidlt[m]> Will try to deal with device-mapper-persistent-data tomorrow.
<davidlt[m]> Just a few more packages before I go to sleep :)
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