00:01 <lennox> wheres the matrix channel if you dont mind linking?

06:31 <cruxbridge> <tim> lennox: #crux:crux.nu

11:40 <GazL> Good Afternoon folks.

11:41 <GazL> The latest util-linux pkgbuild appears not to create a libuuid.la file, which causes the new imagemagick build to fail on my system

11:43 <GazL> There's approx a dozen other .la files on my system that reference it as a dep, so I'm expecting further issues down the line.

11:50 <ppetrov^> https://github.com/baguette/crux-ports/blob/master/Util/bin/libtool-garbage-day.sh

11:50 <ppetrov^> seems baguette got really pissed with the la shit and decided to clean them up once and for all

11:51 <ppetrov^> farkuhar, here gave me a hint about how to modify /etc/pkgadd.conf not install these at all, but I do not remember

11:54 <ppetrov^> GazL, for CRUX 3.6.1 we had some spectacular breakage when freetype got rid of the la stuff

11:56 <GazL> Slackware decided to strip .la files from all the system libraries as a matter of course during packaging to avoid this nonsense. Perhaps that's somethign CRUX devs might consider?

11:57 <ppetrov^> GazL, ask in crux-devel :P

11:58 <farkuhar> GazL: missing *.la files is the expected result of switching the util-linux build system from autotools to meson. The devs usually recommend identifying the broken ports with 'grep -lr libuuid.la /usr/lib' and 'pkginfo -o', then rebuilding all of them.

12:00 <GazL> Understood farkuhar, but I think I'll just remove all the .la files and get rid of this useless libtool complication. As I said, slackware doesn't even bother shipping them any more and it seems to work well over there.

12:38 <GazL> Ok, I've just removed them all. Now I just need to go patch pkgmk to add a remove_lafiles function to keep it tidy.

12:39 <GazL> Thanks for the suggestions guys.

12:43 <r0ni> i just rm all the .la files locally and it fixes most of those issues i come across... tho tbh it should be part of the pkgfile, but sometimes is missed (I'm guilty of this as well)

12:51 <SiFuh> GazL: /etc/pkgadd.conf INSTALL ^usr/lib/.*\.la$ NO This is my favorite option. Rejects all .la files

12:51 <SiFuh> ppetrov^: ^

12:53 <r0ni> nice

12:53 <SiFuh> r0ni: farkuhar brought it up in #crux-social. I think it was from emmett1's Venom Linux

12:55 <r0ni> i've gone thru the repos before but never installed the actual distro, stole a few pkgfile's no doubt

12:55 <GazL> SiFuh: Oh, neat trick! Thanks.

12:58 <GazL> I'm still gonna patch a PKGMK_REMOVE_LAFILES option into pkgmk though. It's a simple enough patch. Obviously I'll end up getting footprint mismatches, but then that's not really unusual.

12:58 <SiFuh> r0ni: I have never installed the distro even though he's a friend of mine and lives in the next state.

12:59 <SiFuh> GazL: The 'neat trick' doesn't footprint mismatch and basically filters them out and rejects them. Heaps easier

13:02 <GazL> Sifuk: So what happens when you do a rejmerge? Do you just hit 'k' for them all?

13:03 <SiFuh> *.la has nothing to do with rejmerge

13:04 <GazL> I know, but the .la files will go to /var/lib/pkg/rejected/ if you specify NO in pkgadd.conf won't they?

13:05 <SiFuh> I have seen many rejected and there are none located there

13:06 <GazL> Ahh, Ok, I'll have to investigate that then.

13:06 <SiFuh> Should be only for text files /var/lib/pkg/rejected/etc/

13:07 <farkuhar> GazL: /var/lib/pkg/rejected gets populated by files that match an UPGRADE NO rule, not an INSTALL NO rule. The latter files make up the "non-install list" rather than the "keep list" (search the pkgadd.cc source code for those terms).

13:12 <farkuhar> You can get more verbose reporting by recompiling pkgutils without the -DNDEBUG in CXXFLAGS. Then pkgadd will print to stderr the entire conflicting files list, non-install list, and (during upgrade operations) keep list.

13:14 <GazL> farkuhar: Thankyou, that makes it much clearer.

13:24 <ppetrov^> thanks SiFuh and farkuhar

13:25 <GazL> Guys, are the patterns in pkgadd.conf basic or extended regex?

13:29 <GazL> nevermind. they 'extended'. found out by trial and error.

13:29 <ukky> GazL: man regcomp, with cflags REG_EXTENDED | REG_NOSUB

13:29 <GazL> thankyou.

14:17 <serpente> i have a question about Orphaned Ports that have been dropped, any intention in getting than back in? I've being maitaining some of them for months now.

14:17 <serpente> *them*

14:42 <ppetrov^> same here, serpente

14:43 <cruxbridge> <tim> there is no active desire to get them back, otherwise, one of the maintainers would've done so. if you want them and maintain them yourself, that's great.

14:48 <cruxbridge> <tim> lennox: btw, there is a whole space that bridges the IRC channels on matrix. Since you joined the room, maybe you want the space as well: #crux-space:crux.nu (https://matrix.to/#/#crux-space:crux.nu)

14:50 <cruxbridge> <tim> I really need to document it.. I'm sure I'll do it sometime in the future :)

18:48 <sajcho> Hi guys. I updated gcc to version 14.1.0. Now I will recompile the installed ports. I wonder what will happen. https://github.com/sajcho

20:56 <cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: chktex: 1.7.8 -> 1.7.9

20:56 <cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: fzf: 0.51.0 -> 0.52.0

20:56 <cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: python3-blinker: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.2

20:56 <cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: python3-frozendict: 2.4.3 -> 2.4.4

20:56 <cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: tpm2-tss: 4.1.0 -> 4.1.1

20:56 <cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: zjstatus: 0.14.0 -> 0.14.1

21:40 <cruxbridge> <lennox (@lennox:nope.chat)> tim: thanks sir :)