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[opt.git/3.6]: [notify] samba: update to 4.15.5, security fixes
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<groovy2shoes>
"written by Lennart himself" is not a commendation in my book ¬_¬
<groovy2shoes>
not to detract from the venerability of xmms
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<ppetrov^>
"not a commendation in my book" i never said it was :)
<ppetrov^>
btw frinnst, how come you brought up xmms all of a sudden?
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<SiFuh>
Because it won't die ;-)
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<farkuhar>
ppetrov^: Maybe because frinnst was browsing your repo and found all those xmms ports?
<frinnst>
yep :)
<ppetrov^>
ah... :)
<ppetrov^>
i'm flattered
<ppetrov^>
i even keep the gtk1 industrial engine, so it does not look so ugly
<SiFuh>
Hahaha
<SiFuh>
I was qmmp I think
<SiFuh>
No longer need it since my CRUX machine is now a flight simulator
<SiFuh>
using*
<pedja>
gtk1? damn :)
<pedja>
only gtk2 application I have is GNU Backgammon, since the gtk3 port is still WIP
<ppetrov^>
we all have out... peculiarities. I, for example, really do not like the path GTK3 has taken
<ppetrov^>
*out -> our
<pedja>
fair enough. I just don't care about its path. if it is good enough for xfce devs, good enough for me :)
<ppetrov^>
yep :) I wish they would port Xfce to qt. yes I know about lxqt, it's still a bit immature
<ppetrov^>
I don't know who decided that hiding scrollbars is a great idea. Or hiding scrollbar arrows. FFS...
<pedja>
hiding scrollbars?
<ppetrov^>
well, many gtk3 programs dynamically show you the scrollbars when you move the cursor towards the window edge
<ppetrov^>
then they disappear. For example in Evince
<ppetrov^>
i realize i sound like a grumpy old man, but this behaviour I really do not like
<ppetrov^>
anyway, not the proper place for a rant.
<pedja>
don't think I've seen that so far. maybe it's a gnome thing :)
<farkuhar>
oddly, I just had the opposite experience when trying to reproduce the hiding scrollbars. Code blocks in a DokuWiki were missing their left-right scrollbars when viewed in qutebrowser (a Qt5 application), but the scrollbars appeared in firefox (GTK3) without user intervention.
<farkuhar>
Here's the page I was testing: somebody@somewhere.com
<farkuhar>
''|filterprogram''
<farkuhar>
external e-mail address, where a copy of each mail will be sent
<farkuhar>
Sorry about that, copied the wrong buffer!
<farkuhar>
qutebrowser is pretty customizable, though ... you can get it to always show scrollbars by setting c.scrolling.bar = 'always' in its config.py file
<farkuhar>
but by default it will create "overlay" scrollbars, which only appear when you move the cursor toward the edge
<farkuhar>
so it's not just gtk3 programs that follow this convention, but all programs whose authors drank the Mac OS kool-aid