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<zorz> SiFuh SiFuh
<SiFuh> zorz: Did you watch it?
<SiFuh> Ignore the bullshit added to the start of some Muslim guy completely missunderstanding what is happening and trying associate it with Islam
<SiFuh> of some/by some
<SiFuh> It's not what he thinks. Even if it seems to follow their beliefs, this isn't what is happening.
<zorz> SiFuh: i told you nice jeep
<SiFuh> The last video I just sent
<zorz> the one to remiliascarlet ?
<SiFuh> Yes
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Start 0:43
<zorz> no
<zorz> moment
<zorz> SiFuh: we know that
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<zorz> SiFuh: biggest problem is in France. They had colonies,,, what goes arround comes arround
<zorz> farkuhar: change ip/host, i prefer the other one better :)
<zorz> heh
<farkuhar> zorz: despite remiliascarlet's apparent objection to the final consonant in your transliteration "phovia", I have to say that Steve Volumetric is an awesome name. The back-to-back "v"s really roll off the tongue.
<zorz> farkuhar: this is chinese to me :)
<zorz> SiFuh: https://0x0.st/XJTh.mp4 HAHAHAHA
<farkuhar> zorz: not having a Greek keyboard layout, I tried copy-and-pasting your original post from the chat log. But one of the intermediate layers was not sufficiently UTF-8-aware, so I only saw whitespace pasted into my tmux session (running on the ip/host you prefer). Connecting from the current ip/host should remove some of the intermediate layers, so maybe I'll be able to paste Greek and see it before hitting Send.
<zorz> farkuhar: https://0x0.st/XJTh.mp4 enjoy
<SiFuh> What is wrong with farkuhar@user/farkuhar
<SiFuh> zorz: That guy driving into the sign will be charged by police with evidence provided by his own camera.
<farkuhar> SiFuh: the NFS howto still has some anachronistic references to /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} even though these config files haven't been a thing since the tcp_wrappers days. Should we submit patches to get the NFS documentation updated?
<SiFuh> Is that a Linux thing?
<farkuhar> I'm referring to https://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ which does claim to be Linux-specific.
<SiFuh> We don't have this issue
<SiFuh> OpenBSD
<farkuhar> Well, the /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} don't seem to have any effect on modern Linux systems. Maybe the howto should be updated with instructions for nftables.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: It's a lost cause
<farkuhar> SiFuh: What's a lost cause? lavaball isn't here to express his distaste for nftables. He must be taking a really long nap.
<SiFuh> I myself don't give a shit what they do anymore in the Linux community. Clan of retarded imbred morons, SJW's, LGTV idiots, and stuck up self-centered, self-idolazing pricks. It's a lost cause.
<farkuhar> I actually find your dismissal of the Linux community more disheartening than lavaball's complaints about nftables.
<SiFuh> Eventually you will either join them farkuhar or you will be leave them. Time will tell.
<SiFuh> nftables is good
<SiFuh> farkuhar: It's not the Linux it use to be back in the 90s/2Ks
<zorz> nftables are okay
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<SiFuh> nftables is the best firewall Linux has ever had apart from pulling your ethernet cable.
<SiFuh> And PF slaughters nftables. Knocks it out the ring. Besides from what I see of nftables, they are poaching ideas from PF but changing things to make it look unique
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Do you have a direct link to that /etc/host thing or do you expect me to click every sublink to find it?
<zorz> if something is good in pf, why not to adopt it in nftables.
<zorz> i dont see something wrong.
<SiFuh> zorz: Why hide it though? Credit? Are they democrats?
<SiFuh> Look at the Pkgfiles in CRUX. Many patches are poached from other Linux distros but credit is usually given through the Pkgfile. I don't particulary care since the patches have the details inside.
<SiFuh> zorz: If something is good in Linux, BSD, OpenSolaris then it is good for microsoft to poach it and then make it closed source giving zero credit to the real programmers and coders.
<SiFuh> Right?
<zorz> yes
<zorz> it is the way how it works
<zorz> plus they own everybody
<SiFuh> Cool, so if you paint a beautiful painting. I can clone it and say it is mine?
<lavaball> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASH
<lavaball> pf is shit.
<lavaball> nftables is the fucking bomb. even iptables is better than pf.
<lavaball> pf is a fucking sickness.
<zorz> lavaball: its good to have your own opinion and support it
<SiFuh> farkuhar: There are three main configuration files you will need to edit to set up an NFS server: /etc/exports, /etc/hosts.allow, and /etc/hosts.deny . Strictly speaking, you only need to edit /etc/exports to get NFS to work, but you would be left with an extremely insecure setup. You may also need to edit your startup scripts; see Section 3, “Setting Up an NFS Server” for more on that.
<SiFuh> Does linux still use it?
<lavaball> the worst thing about pf though is the hype. people selling it like it's the second coming of jesus or something.
<SiFuh> zorz: It's okay, he knows shit about pf. Just a childish limited idea in his head that he never bothered to find out by RTFM
<lavaball> then you try it and it's complete shit.
<lavaball> haha, i even explained to you how to write a proper ruleset and you didn't understand it.
<lavaball> so please, spare me.
<SiFuh> So you did write a proper ruleset in pf
<SiFuh> Cool...
<lavaball> i mean the whole last rule counts design choice alredy shows that it's fucking retarded.
<lavaball> multiple.
<SiFuh> FIFO
<lavaball> but it gets better! they know it's retarded, that's why they introduced quick rules and anchors.
<SiFuh> anchors and quick rules have been around since 4.X days
<lavaball> yeah, they would be completely redundant if there wasn't this last rule wins bullshit.
<lavaball> i mean just think about it. i give you a list of things to do and you have to read all of it, eve nthough the first thing says: do nothing. just leave.
<lavaball> fucking retarded!
<SiFuh> No need to insult yourself like that
<lavaball> oh no. the breakfast is leaking.
<zorz> i dont know guys i am quite comfortable with nftables
<SiFuh> zorz: I don't think your opinion counts :-P
<zorz> care NOT :-P
<SiFuh> You go through software like a sick person using toilet paper when having diarrhoea
<lavaball> nftables is pretty good. it's not as easy to handle as iptables. doesn't even have as many features. like iptables has it's own baddies list implementation. in nftables ... ohh that's the next thing. you shouldn't write it like iptables, even though the wiki makes you believe you should.
<lavaball> you have to split it by ip4 and ip6 and have everything in there. no separation of filter, nat, and what not.
<zorz> no no no,,, you know yesterday new version of shfmt, you know what i did, install go, update shfmt and uninstall go hahaha
<SiFuh> lavaball: You can include both
<zorz> its the first time, no rust, no-compiler-rt, no go, no npm, no yarn no language-server-shit.... my state is nirvana :)
<lavaball> because since ipsets aren't necessary anymore, the only way to access sets created from nat in filter is having only one ipv4 table.
<lavaball> also a retarded design choice by the way.
<zorz> SiFuh: look this
<zorz> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
<zorz> /dev/root 54G 9.3G 42G 19% /
<zorz> remember when i had no space hahahaha
<farkuhar> zorz: care NOT :-P
<zorz> farkuhar: fuck you :-P
<farkuhar> zorz: did you ever notice how SiFuh reaches for the toilet analogies when dismissing our adventures in unorthodox software deployments? I still remember the time he said "sndio in Linux is like toilet paper in a Muslim country dude. There's no way to use it without making a mess."
<farkuhar> Then just today, he dismisses your adventures in a rust-free, go-free, npm-free existence with a comparison to a "sick person using toilet paper when having diarrhoea".
<zorz> eeeeeeeeeeeeee
<zorz> farkuhar: SiFuh is SiFuh is one of a kind!
<remiliascarlet> farkuhar: "which does claim to be Linux-specific." That's odd, because in my experience, NFS feels much more native on the BSD's (including macOS even) than it does on Linux. Because on Linux you most likely have to either install it, or enable it in the kernel, and then enable and start 3 services even as a client. Whereas on the BSD's you don't have to install anything, and the services part
<remiliascarlet> only applies for servers, not clients.
<zorz> farkuhar let me ask ai for nfs server is going to be fun
<remiliascarlet> zorz: Fuck that garbage generator, and read the motherfucking manuals!
<zorz> remiliascarlet: long time no sex, i think :)
<zorz> remiliascarlet: speaking of man pages, they even did in npm tldr..... it gets better and better.
<lavaball> remi!
<zorz> farkuhar: https://0x0.st/XJmq.txt
<zorz> ooo and pulseaudio free, alsa as serpente pointed out.
<remiliascarlet> zorz: You mean something like `npm i manpages`? Enjoy your 8945389534782439874312 dependencies on that 1 `manpages` package then.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: yes fucking hell
* SiFuh hands farkuhar toilet paper to wipe his mouth.
<zorz> when i saw the thing getting promoted,,, i was in shock
<remiliascarlet> Because Javascript developers can't seem to put any line of code together by themselves, so they resort to NPM packages for literally everything.
<SiFuh> Fuck you zorzy!
<remiliascarlet> "This repository is an ever-growing collection of examples for the most common UNIX, Linux, macOS, SunOS, Android and Windows commands." They said "UNIX" 3 times, and "Linux" 2 times here.
<remiliascarlet> Also, no BSD? Racist!
<zorz> man... the thing with rust is out of hand
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: At the local butcher, there's this glass counter with many different cuts of meat. At 1 of the cuts of beef shoulder they wrote "Recommendation of the day! Allergy warning: could possibly contain traces of beef.",
<remiliascarlet> I facepalmed so hard, you could probably hear it outside of the store even.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: HAHAHA
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I can't eat meat for awhile.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Did your wife punish you?
<SiFuh> I reckon she cooked it wrong. HAHAHA
<SiFuh> I have a blockage so I am on laxatives and high fiber garbage until I get rid of it.
<SiFuh> Almost a week now.
<remiliascarlet> Sounds rather counter intuitive.
<SiFuh> If not, I have to go to a clinic or hospital to have it pulled out.
<SiFuh> Well she did cook some meat and it was rubber
<remiliascarlet> When I tried to re-introduce fiber, I only got a blockage in my ass.
<SiFuh> I fasted for 48 hours
<SiFuh> Because I had food poisoning (Bacterial infection)
<remiliascarlet> I upped my fat intake by just eating butter and larb by themselves, and the poop started to come out again.
<SiFuh> Then got it again after I stopped
<SiFuh> Fasted again for 48 hours and I visit the toilet every 10 to 30 minutes to shit nothing but rotting black liquid.
<SiFuh> larb?
<remiliascarlet> Lard.
<SiFuh> I don't like lard.
<SiFuh> I prefer tallow and duck fat
<remiliascarlet> You can use that as well.
<SiFuh> I spent more time shitting than camping so I ended up leaving early the next morning.
<remiliascarlet> I tried to preserve duck fat, but I just couldn't resist, and drunk it up.
<SiFuh> Hahahaha
<remiliascarlet> Otherwise there wouldn't have been enough fat with the duck.
<SiFuh> You don't need fat with the duck.
<SiFuh> It tastes great already
<lavaball> remi, i'm gonna take a nap. you coming?
<remiliascarlet> Duck by itself tastes great, but the fat just adds more flavor.
<SiFuh> The creepy stalker is still here
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: No, too far away. And not really interested in the seed oil smell.
<lavaball> stalker? i just want her to stand guard with her knife.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Then baste it with the fat
<lavaball> seed oil? i don't use those.
<lavaball> in fact i have no oils whatsoever.
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: I don't know what it is, but it's like every vegan smells like seed oil. I can literally smell if they're vegan or not.
<lavaball> i would take that challenge.
<remiliascarlet> Especially with the summer heat this smell gets extra pronounced.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: They smell like ammonia and toxic chemicals. Especially when they are on fire.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: To me it's more like rotten cabbage with dated garlic and lots of seed oil poured over it.
<lavaball> anyway, i wanted to sleep.
<remiliascarlet> Well, seed oil is basically diesel, so the smell is kind of similar.
<lavaball> i guess i'll just lock the front door then, if remi is not protecting me.
<SiFuh> lavaball: From what? Vegetables?
<lavaball> seriously, this is the first time i'm hearing this.
<remiliascarlet> lavaball: You're a guy, so you don't need to worry about getting raped by migrants.
<lavaball> all the girls always said i smell nice.
<lavaball> that's not accurate, remi. they don't care. and i was more scared of being stabbed anyway.
<SiFuh> lavaball: Liar, you basically said your front door is unlocked.
<lavaball> yes? so?
<lavaball> where is the lie?
<SiFuh> If you were scared of being stabbed, it'd be locked
<lavaball> they won't stab at home. it was just an excuse to get remi do come here.
<SiFuh> She isn't that stupid. Who'd want to hang out with a German Golly-Wog?
<remiliascarlet> In general, if somebody has the need of killing you, they probably already know you, and hold a grudge against you.
<lavaball> but what i said is still accurate. even though it's hilghly unlikely, i'm more scared of being stabbed than raped here, since i'm not pretty enough to get raped.
<lavaball> not even remi wants a piece.
<remiliascarlet> Unless it's someone who just kills people at random at least.
<lavaball> remi, that's no longer accurate since the migrant flood.
<lavaball> they stab without prejudice.
<remiliascarlet> "Unless it's someone who just kills people at random at least."
<remiliascarlet> I said that for a reason.
<lavaball> that makes it sound like that would be the isolated case.
<lavaball> it's the other way around. people with grudges don't kill each other here.
<lavaball> rape yes. kill? not so much.
<remiliascarlet> Depends on the grudge.
<lavaball> never seen the movie.
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<lavaball> anyway, laters.
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<SiFuh> ........
<remiliascarlet> You can tell vegans crave meat so much if they have to make fake version of the very food they claim to hate so much: https://invidious.jing.rocks/watch?v=-R_ydUzfFHU
<SiFuh> No need to click, I have known that since the 80's
<SiFuh> And now they are trying to make cancer meat and bug paste meat because meat is bad for you.
<SiFuh> They are so full of their own shit, they spew their shit onto everyone else (Sorry farkuhar :-P)
<remiliascarlet> I didn't watch myself, because I know it will be too cringe to handle. I just saw the title and description.
<SiFuh> So it is a lavaball video again?
<remiliascarlet> Basically, it's about a so-called "vegan wagyu".
<remiliascarlet> Most of the wagyu outside of Japan is already not real wagyu, so technically they made a fake product out of a fake product.
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<farkuhar> remiliascarlet: "NFS feels much more native on the BSD's than it does on Linux." That might be why there exists a HOWTO written for Linux users, whereas the other platforms don't need a HOWTO. And you're right about the complicated setup on Linux; I had to compile a new kernel and add at least three entries to the /etc/rc.conf SERVICES array.
<farkuhar> And while macOS might inherit from the BSD's some of the native support for NFS, the same cannot be said for iOS. A few days ago I shared a link to a VLC issue that went unresolved for three years; the iOS app was unable to stream any media over NFS. There must have been a regression recently, because the latest VLC app for iPhone is not able to mount the directory I specified in /etc/exports.
<remiliascarlet> iOS is basically an even further locked down macOS.
<remiliascarlet> While macOS is basically a locked down FreeBSD.
<remiliascarlet> Well, locked down OpenDarwin, which in turn is a locked down FreeBSD.
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<ppetrov^> I wonder if my ancient xfce will compile with 3.8's gcc
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<zorz> ppetrov^: test drive
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<ppetrov^> so, what's the situation with 3.8? Any prerelease ISOs?
<SiFuh> Wrong channel ppetrov^
<SiFuh> Try crux or crux-devel to be precises
<SiFuh> precise
<ppetrov^> i won't bother them with an "Are we there yet" question
<SiFuh> ppetrov^: HAHAH I was thinking the same before you said it
<SiFuh> Then you hit a sasquatch and start a movie called Harry and the Hendersons
<ppetrov^> "Are we there yet" is a reference to a movie?
<SiFuh> Many
<ppetrov^> TIL
<zorz> hahhaha
<zorz> everytime SiFuh says wrong channel is so cool!
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<zorz> bamboleiro
<lavaball> i want the bitches.
<lavaball> where are they?!
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<zorz> lavaball: go outside
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