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<skin> The Common Lisp Community Survey 2024 Results is posted here: https://blog.djhaskin.com/blog/common-lisp-community-survey-2024-results/
<ixelp> Common Lisp Community Survey 2024 Results — Dan's Musings
<ixelp> Common Lisp Community Survey 2024 Results | Hacker News
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<paulapatience> skin: for what it's worth I found it unobvious that the responses were ordered by frequency
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<paulapatience> Clasp is not written in all uppercase, by the way
<paulapatience> Guix also
<paulapatience> Otherwise, nice work!
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<beach> skin: What's the first bar in the third question? It is unlabeled.
<beach> skin: And I agree with paulapatience that the questions that have a duration as an answer should probably be ordered by duration and not frequency.
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<beach> skin: And it is the "European Lisp Symposium", not the "European Common Lisp Symposium".
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<beach> skin: The diagram shows 11.30% for the NovaSpec, but your remark says 8%.
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<skin> derp
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<beach> skin: In my paper on debugging: http://metamodular.com/SICL/sicl-debugging.pdf I mention how bad the debugging situation is (especially) for free Common Lisp implementations, so I was a bit surprised to see how you mentioned the "good debugging tools" of SBCL. I guess that's another data point for me, indicating that Common Lisp programmers don't seem to need good debugging tools.
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<[-_-]> Hi
<pranav> Hi [-_-]
<[-_-]> I am looking for a function that can select part of a string based on regex
<[-_-]> I am using sbcl
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<pranav> [-_-]: Something like match-split could be helpful, from one of regex libraries.
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<skin> beach: I guess I mean relatively. I can actually step through stuff with sbcl and I didn't need to look at the manual to figure it out. ccl I had a hard time figuring it out. I do wish sbcl error messages were a little clearer though.
<beach> I see.
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<mwnaylor> Success!! Either I had network issues or servers were offline. I now have Closeau installed and functional.
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<beach> Excellent!
<beach> *Clouseau
<beach> I famous inspector.
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<paulapatience> I have seen the Pink Panther, but I hadn't made the connection until now
<paulapatience> Haha
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<bjorkintosh> "Common Lisp" inspector.
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<mwnaylor> Does CL have instance-of and/or derived-from functions?
<bike> (typep object class)?
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<mwnaylor> typep works for instances. How about the symbols that identify classes? I'd like to do somethingh like (derived-from-p 'triangle 'shape).
<bike> ah. you want subtypep.
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<mwnaylor> subtypep seems to be it. I see that it is sensitive to context. May be necessary to have the package name prefix for it to return expected results.
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<bike> well, i mean you need to give it the right name, certainly
<bike> two symbols with the same name in different packages can name different classes
<mwnaylor> I still am a little fuzzy on namespace/package visibility when use-package pulls in public variables & functions.
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<yacin> how can i remove ultralisp as a dist from quicklisp?
<tux0r> yacin: AFAIU, rm -rf ~/dists/ultralisp?
<tux0r> eh... /quicklisp,
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<yacin> ah yeah that'll do it
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<yacin> there was a ql-dist:uninstall but i couldn't get it to work
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<yacin> unfortunately didn't fix the issue i was hoping. getting a memory fault from dexador and i'm not sure why
<yacin> not sure if anyone knows off the top of their head why: https://plaster.tymoon.eu/view/4546#4546
<yacin> i thought newer versions of the libs would help but alas they did not. google not too helpful either :\