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<NotThatRPG>
mrcom: Thanks for the pointer to linedit. Testing it out now.
<beach>
NotThatRPG: I didn't read the entire exchange, but what I often do when I examine a value in a stack frame in the SLIME debugger is I hit `e' to evaluate in frame and then I do (CLOUSEAU:INSPECT <the-variable-I-am-interested-in>).
<NotThatRPG>
beach: This wasn't in emacs (it was an error in a script), but that's a good suggestion otherwise.
<beach>
Oh, OK.
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<paulapatience>
I have made quite some progress wrapping the PRIMA optimization library. Basic optimization works, there are just a few things missing before it is ready.
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<beach>
I have been working a bit on the book on CLOS programming. This is the current version of the first chapter on the main topic of the book, in case someone is interested: http://metamodular.com/defining-generic-functions.pdf
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<bjorkintosh>
beach: it's not under metamodular.com/Books/ ?
<bjorkintosh>
asking for later findability.
<beach>
It is not (yet) public.
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<beach>
I haven't made up my mind whether to develop it in public or not.
<bjorkintosh>
fair point.
<bjorkintosh>
I was curious about the prior chapters.
<beach>
I understand.
<beach>
One is about idiomatic programming. It is fairly long.
<beach>
Things might get moved around, like to appendices and such.
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<paulapatience>
beach: "requred" in page 1
<beach>
Thanks.
<paulapatience>
Also form in "defun form" is fixed width; it probably shouldn't be
<beach>
Indeed.
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<paulapatience>
Missing closing paren in (class-of '(a) in page two
<beach>
Yep.
<paulapatience>
Spurious space between "Code fragment 6.1" and the following comma on page 3
<beach>
Found it.
<paulapatience>
"only *the* second method will be called" on page 4
<paulapatience>
and the following period should be a comma
<paulapatience>
or perhaps the following fragment deleted
<paulapatience>
"the empty list.." (two periods)
<beach>
Yes, and yes.
<paulapatience>
"the same arguments as the current method was called with", either "that" instead of "as", or drop "was called with"
<beach>
OK.
<paulapatience>
same thing further below "as the fourth method was called with"
<beach>
Right.
<paulapatience>
page 5 "code factoring" in italics?
<beach>
Sure.
<beach>
Yes, mistake.
<paulapatience>
Also the space following "This object is a list." should be escaped with backslash. LaTeX thinks it is the end of the sentence.
<paulapatience>
comma after "the maintainer"
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<beach>
Found both.
<paulapatience>
"and it can have" should be "and they can have"
<beach>
Indeed.
<paulapatience>
"just like ordinary functions can" -> "too" maybe
<beach>
As in parameters too, just like ...
<beach>
?
<beach>
As in "... parameters too, just like ..." I mean?
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<beach>
Or replace?
<paulapatience>
I was thinking replace, since you already said "like ordinary function" in that sentence
<beach>
Ah, yes, good point.
<paulapatience>
"the class instance can be any parameter;" replace semicolon with comma
<beach>
Right.
<paulapatience>
Last page you have lowercase t, but previously it was uppercase
<beach>
I should use lower case everywhere.
<paulapatience>
Bottom.of page 3, then
<beach>
Yes, found them.
<paulapatience>
Code fragment 6.4 says "generic-documentation" but the example and introducing sentence say just "documentation"
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<paulapatience>
"Th[e] generic function"
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<beach>
Yes, and yes.
<paulapatience>
Also, maybe put the lambda-list on the following line to fit the rectangle
<beach>
Absolutely.
<paulapatience>
"appliable"
<beach>
Right.
<paulapatience>
Done
<beach>
This very valuable feedback makes me think I should maybe write this book in public.
<beach>
Thank you so much!
<paulapatience>
You're welcome. I'm looking forward to future chapters.
<beach>
Great!
<paulapatience>
What is your reasoning for not writing it in public? Are you planning to sell copies?
<beach>
I had vague plans to talk to Apress.
<beach>
I don't know how a publisher like Apress would react if the entire thing is already out there.
<beach>
Maybe phoe can tell me.
<beach>
Another argument in favor of writing it in public is that the encouragement I used to get from my favorite coauthor could be had from #commonlisp participants.
<beach>
Such lack of encouragement is why I have not made much progress lately.
<paulapatience>
In my humble opinion, after having coauthored only one non-fiction book, I fail to see any benefits for publishing with a publisher. If I were to write another I would just use some creative commons license and put it online.
<paulapatience>
Obviously my book was not popular enough to make me rich ;)
<beach>
I definitely see your point. Our book on computer architecture gives me around 2€ per month, and my self published books around the same amount.
<beach>
Maybe phoe could also tell me how rich he has become as a result of his book. :)
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<beach>
My (admittedly small) family just announced that dinner is served. I will be back tomorrow.
<beach>
paulapatience: Thanks again for all the help.
<paulapatience>
Bon appétit
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<bjorkintosh>
paulapatience: is your book on lisp?
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<paulapatience>
bjorkintosh: It's on writing (scientific) papers, presentations and posters
<bjorkintosh>
ah. Meta academic.
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