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<ebrasca> Can you change stream direction?
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<ebrasca> I wonder how to deal correctly with half open connections in tcp ip streams.
<nij-> Is there an implementation that supports this?: Redefine a function in the debugger (without using slime/sly) on the fly, in the current frame, and let it the program run from then on, see what happens, and jump back to the beginning to the time where redefinition and funcall didn't happen?
<bike> i really doubt it.
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<nij-> sbcl's manual reads "global special values are visible across all threads;" -
<nij-> I wonder, in case that a CPU has multiple cores, how is this possible in general?
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<bike> it's all in the same process
<bike> code running on a different CPU doesn't use different RAM (on a basic computer)
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<nij-> ?! sbcl thread is OS thread (last time I checked..)
<nij-> But the OS threads of the same process all stays in the same core?
<aeth> nij-: bike is saying that memory access is shared between cores on a modern system.
<aeth> However, it may suffer from NUMA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-uniform_memory_access
<aeth> so it's an abstraction at the hardware/OS level that can be leaky (in the case of NUMA)
<nij-> Oh.. I see. They don't use cache?
<aeth> it's all handled at a lower level than the language itself
<aeth> you don't have cache control in compilers afaik
<aeth> Afaik, cache efficiency is just putting things next to each other in memory and hoping the hardware is smart.
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<bike> they use cache but the cache is of the same memory
<bike> like the whole point of the cache is to make it seem like the cache doesn't exist. it's not a separate memory store
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<bike> this isn't anything to do with lisp specifically, it's just how multiprocessing works
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<nij-> Is there a graphviz library that actually works out of the box?
<nij-> cl-graph does not.. the basic example it provides seems to be broken - https://cl-graph.common-lisp.dev/user-guide.html
<ixelp> CL-Graph User's Guide
<ixelp> View paste I2VA
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<_death> cl-dot
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