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<jmercouris> I don't want the decision logic to be in my-application/F
<jmercouris> that is the whole point, it is unrelated to F
<jmercouris> the logic is related to A and B
<jmercouris> they are the ones who need to modify the behavior of F
<jmercouris> this sounds like an inversion of responsibility
<kagevf> ok
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<mivanchev> hey, could someone help me solve "Package UIOP/LISP-BUILD does not exist."
<mivanchev> when --load'ing a LISP file with SBCL
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<beach> mivanchev: You may have to check with #sbcl. Maybe it has to do with using the flag --non-interactive.
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<mivanchev> ah, good hint
<paulapatience> mivanchev: Is asdf loaded? As in (require "asdf")
<mivanchev> doesn't appear to be
<paulapatience> Well that would cause the error you are encountering
<paulapatience> Try adding --eval '(require "asdf")' before loading the make.image file
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<mivanchev> works with '(require 'asdf)' but i dont get it
<mivanchev> unmodified i can build locally
<mivanchev> however when I do a CI build it doesn't work
<mivanchev> thanks a bunch paulapatience
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<paulapatience> Do you have an .sbclrc which is loading quicklisp?
<paulapatience> That would load asdf
<mivanchev> that explains it
<mivanchev> thanks!!!
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<ixelp> Yukari Hafner: "Added support for Mezzano to Framebuffers. https…" - TyNET
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<mm007emko> Hi, I need to quickly put together a website. Has anyone tried Bootstrap Studio? I guess it can work with HTMX and Common Lisp...
<mm007emko> Clog is of course another thing I thought of.
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<splittist> mm007emko: you can get a long way with humchentoot, spinaret (sp) and strings with htmx.
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<mm007emko> Sure. I was thinking about ningle + spinneret for backend
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<dsmith> Some years ago, I was reading about some server running hunchentoot that has had the same PID for *years*. DB schema updates. all kinds of changes, but still running the same process.
<dsmith> Anyone know what that was?
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<mm007emko> Sounds legit. However the Internet is quite a different place from what it was 20 years ago. Having access to middleware like anti-csrf token handling helps.
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<younder> Hunchentoot, postmodern, spinneret
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<younder> The only thing I replaced is cl-who with spinneret
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<younder> But then I like that nice lispy feel. Everything is a sexp
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<younder> I also used cl-ssh and parenscript, but I am more ambivalent about those.
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<mm007emko> How do you handle security, please? If you can share. Like the aforementioned CSRF? And do you keep user sessions in memory, i.e. you don't persist them/or load-balance the web server so you don't have to keep them separate?
<younder> Set *read-eval* to nil to avoid injection attacks alla #.(hackrsrus)
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<younder> Never use read directly on anything you get from a post or get. regexp parse it
<mm007emko> Thanks
<younder> encrypt cookies
<splittist> mm007emko: hunchentoot behind caddy (with https), something derived from hunchentools for csrf tokens, cl-pass for password encryption
<mm007emko> Thanks!
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<splittist> mm007emko: and it looks like I'm using postmodern for database stuff
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<younder> Oh and spinneret and iter don't work together. loop is fine..
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<kagevf> interesting cl-pass has a dependency on ironclad
<kagevf> I've just been using ironclad directly ..
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<younder> I'm no great fan of ironclad. To complex and it contains a ton of algorithms that I don't want.
<kagevf> it does have a lot going on. myself I just use pretty much what cl-pass is apparently using it for. hashing passwords.
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<paulapatience> What would be the point of having one library for each algorithm?
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<younder> For ironclad? More like having a more purpose built library like encrypt-string
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<paulapatience> You can checkout Shinmera's crypto-shortcuts if you are looking for convenience wrappers
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