09:08 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <johnthecoolingfan> Thank you for bringing my attention to this, I'll look into this more. I don't have such screens and only tested with a 2560x1440 screen I use for my pc

10:08 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> You’re a saint. Ik 99% sure at this point this is user error though. The hardware doesn’t report its resolution correctly, and you have to manually tell the OS. There’s documentation in the link above for the screen where it tells you what you need to tell raspbian for example

10:10 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> I’m currently on a magical journey learning how the files that eventually make it onto the boot ram disk are specified so that I can stick a fake edit entry on there and tell the kernel “just use this”

10:10 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> I’m currently on a magical journey learning how the files that eventually make it onto the boot ram disk are specified so that I can stick a fake edid entry on there and tell the kernel “just use this”

10:26 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/documentation](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation/commit/99d0813f1163193c5b964f5e54f6c6e418a2a48d>): *`Automatic` documentation update*

10:35 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> you can specify a forced EDID as a kernel arg iirc

10:36 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/documentation](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation/commit/6459491bac0caceb9926b03ccf3389b4c3affdc6>): *`Automatic` documentation update*

10:43 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> You can, but as far as I can tell the way to do it is to tell the kernel “open this file, it’s in there” and at the stage when it does that, that file needs to be on the ram disk

10:44 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> In case I've done a dumb, I added drm.edid_firmware=edid/800x480.bin to extraargs

10:45 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> but now I need /usr/lib/firmware/edid/800x600.bin to be available to the kernel

10:45 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> but now I need /usr/lib/firmware/edid/800x480.bin to be available to the kernel

10:46 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> or, `[ 5.125272] rockchip-drm display-subsystem: [drm] *ERROR* [CONNECTOR:52:HDMI-A-1] Requesting EDID firmware "edid/800x480.bin" failed (err=-2)`

10:49 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> just to double check, you want to force *with* a display connected right? you're not looking to use a dummy display?

10:49 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> correct

10:54 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> take a look at `/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks` if it exists, the Ubuntu Manpage for it is here: <https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/initramfs-tools.8.html>

10:54 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> you basically add a hook to copy the file in, then regen the initramfs

10:55 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> okay cool, that was what I was looking at atm, but I wasn't confident that it was used by both mkimage as well as mkinitrd, sounds lie I'm on the right track

10:55 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> thanks 🙂

11:02 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> i'm not *certain* it is, but that's the route i'd go down first personally

12:08 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/documentation](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation/commit/70c962972b0c39b8db5419970db7704111f1bc4b>): *`Automatic` documentation update*

18:34 <Hammdist> hey all I have a question about rpi5. I would like to make an SD card that just boots, irrespective of bios contents. I believe this should be technically feasible if a "recovery" image would just chainload u-boot from the sd card directly (rather than updating the bios). has anyone done anything like this? would it be hard?

18:37 <Hammdist> by "bios" I mean eeprom in the rpi nomenclature

19:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> @johnthecoolingfan okay, so this may be a bit beyond my ability to debug just now - I'm pretty noobish with playing with linux. Atm I just need something that works, so I bought a DSI display with the hope that it works more smoothly. Would you be interested in me sending the HDMI one to you so that you can play and see if you can make configuring it a little more straightforward?

19:19 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <johnthecoolingfan> I'll think about it. I don't know much about how HDMI works and the negotiation stuff, you seem to have found more info than I know.

19:22 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> poor John is having flash backs to the CB2 batch and trying to figure out why HDMI doesn't work 😄

19:22 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> if anyone else here thinks the might be the person to debug HDMI siliness, I'd make the same offer to them

19:26 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> FWIW I did manage to build the ramdisk and get the kernel to see the edid firmware

19:27 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> but it did not seem sufficient to make things happy 😦

21:15 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> poor John is having flash backs to the CB2 patch and trying to figure out why HDMI doesn't work 😄

21:48 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> might I ask where there is no lxqt desktop imgs or the optionto beable to build one ? its dot in any of the desktop dirs in the src

21:48 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> has no one ever made one ?

21:49 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> LXQt hasn't been added to the build-system (afaik), but you're welcome to send a PR

21:50 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> standard LXDE is supported from memory, so it probably wouldn't be a huge amount of work

21:50 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> I dont see lxde anywhere I know it use to be there

21:51 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> its not in bookworm/trixie/sid

21:51 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> and I dont see it under ubuntu either

21:54 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> looks like as new os's desktops get dropped

21:54 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> it's *referenced* here: <https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/5367>, but i'm on mobile so can't read it properly

21:55 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> but I will see about the lxqt as I have a h5/2g/32g unit I would like to have lxqt atleast

21:57 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> I have 4 of them and they would make for nice little desktop units

22:01 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> or a nice little gamins emu system

22:05 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> lxqt and lxde use tobe in the builder back on bullseye

22:05 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> but now that busseye is done they are gone

22:08 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> ok well bbl off to read and build a lxqt desktop

22:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> is there a desktop template ?

22:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> other then existing desktops

22:32 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> next question why does armbian use the old skel based for user files and not the xdg ?

22:33 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> skel is old and outdated

22:33 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> and debian even says to move to using xdg

22:45 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> I don't know for sure, as I'm not part of the project, but always remember - there's limited resources available. There's limited people, with limited time, that they're volunteering

22:46 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <beelsebob> If someone hasn't yet decided that that's their highest priority for improving the project, then it hasn't been done

23:29 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> ok

23:29 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> i have a few small boards I juste want to get back to life

23:29 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> and hand they to a few kids and get them learning linux

23:30 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> I have the 4 nanopik1/k2 boards

23:31 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> with 2 and 4 gig ram and I think lxde/lxqt is the best for those small boards with 2 gig and zfce for 4 gig

23:31 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> gnome not a fan of

23:31 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> and kde needs a good 8 gig of ram now days

23:31 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> so

23:32 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <n4cnr> I am more in the riscv side of things and working to make things better

23:44 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> lxde download size is about 475MB, xfce 237MB.

23:44 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <c0rnelius77> If you wanted to get real lite, I would openbox with xfce backend.