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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Just out of curiosity are there (public) statistics which are like the most popular boards running armbian?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> good question
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> https://dietpi.com/survey/
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> saw this and thought this would be nice to maybe make more informed decisions on priorities
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> but also would be just nice to have considering the amount of different boards that run armbian
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> focusing on Rpi is straight answer
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> Did a small analyses of nginx logs of fi mirror from last 10 days: https://x.na4.eu/KOTu3/SoLihePE36.jpg
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> These are the most often requested images, excluding torrent clients
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> higher number the better?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> Kind of wild that the test image for 5+ I made was accessed that often
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> yes. 414 GET for the x86 noble neon kisak desktop image 🙂
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> Cannot tell if download was cancelled though
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> interesting, yeah. some better monitoring tech would be handy to have
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> Redneck science method: `sudo zcat mirror_access.log*|grep GET|grep -v torrent|grep .img.xz|grep -v Transmission|awk '{ print $7 }'|sort|uniq -c|sort -g -k1,1`
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> hehe
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> Did a small analyses of nginx logs of fi mirror from last 15 days: https://x.na4.eu/KOTu3/SoLihePE36.jpg
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> what does kisak stand for?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> thats replacement for oibaf mesa ppa
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> image has been built with mesa-vpu extension
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> depending if kernel is mainline or vendor it is either with kisak or backported mesa (bookworm only)
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> oh is oibaf outdated now?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> (I think)
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> I don't know exactly but for some reason oibaf was replaced with kisak at some point
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> kisak is more stable
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> oibaf is just build and ship, kisak is supposable tested
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> on the note of ubuntu, have you guys tried any of the oracular images since my boards didn’t boot with them?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> x86
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> on rockchip
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> nope
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> btw, there is still some weird problem ... (big) desktop images written with Etcher are corrupted, while they work with USB imager
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> Hasn't that been an issue for years now?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> dread to think how much i've warped the stats for oPi5, though we no longer build debian for it automatically
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> i using raspberry imager because on my side i have some issue with balenaetcher 😦
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> i'm using raspberry imager because on my side i have some issue with balenaetcher 😦
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> USBimager my beloved <3
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> it's the only cross-platform tool i've found that works more often than it fails
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> I'm mac user 🙃
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> yeah, both are ok, also gnome imager, dunno what they f* with etcher. it was working fine for years
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> me too
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> i am armbian user 😉
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> i never heard usbimager
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> https://bztsrc.gitlab.io/usbimager/
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> yeah too on my infrastructure 🙂
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> maybe that’s the cause. I used balena etcher
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> i did some research and it seems if images are compressed, it fails, if they are uncompressed it works
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> only if they are big ... small images works
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> I discovered too late that balenaetcher had problems and was going crazy wondering why the images were corrupted
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> the nr 1 reason why I was using balena for :/
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> didnt want to decompress it first. Does USBimager also have that ability?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> seems yes
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> but I also think I tried on Rock5B+ via rkdeveloptool too and that didn’t boot either. Might’ve been user error idk
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> yes, usbimager can flash .xz directly
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> There is also caligula as TUI image writer
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> it's absolutely high time we had an ArmbianEtcher
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> *no*
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> the imager is the one thing we don't want to implement ourselves
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> we already have it... `EXT=rkdevflash` or `CARD_DEVICE=/dev/xxx`
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> horrible horrible horrible
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> `CARD_DEVICE` is exactly 1 line of `dd`
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> never faile dme
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> USBimager specifically avoids dd, though i can't actually remember why, i think it had weird behavior with certain images
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> if `dd` has "issues" then computer science failed
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> i wish i could remember things for more than a day or two
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> balena/imagerwhatever is for people on non-Linux OS's writing images for platforms with bizarre requirements.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> i checked the docs, it's image verification on write that dd doesn't do
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> I just wanted them (balena specially) to support `zstd`, as it's frakking 2025
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> `xz` is frakking slow
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> i've never had etcher actually work
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/build](<https://github.com/armbian/build>) by [pyavitz](<https://github.com/pyavitz>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/build/commit/a09e8b866f727ae3ab7ded27e5b4bf8a6bca5c3b>): *RaspberryPi BCM2711: `Enable FW_LOADER_COMPRESS support`*
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* Herc is using rpi-imager successfully to burn ..Armbian..any.img.xz on the fly for years
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/build](<https://github.com/armbian/build>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/build/commit/bb02c3b9510f9c00fb7ed10980d2cf8cdd10f970>): *Firstlogin: run provision script if it does exists*
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