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<archetech>
why is bables only one who can build a kernel with panthor working (6.5rc2)
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <gambl0r> Yeah, why?
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <gambl0r> He's got the correct skills I guess
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<archetech>
I refuse to install the builder and ive bugged lafu enough
<archetech>
I googled arnbian/deb recompile kern on host nuttin
<archetech>
cuz I can build x86 all day but arm is trickier with uboot and dtb
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<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <tenkawa42> Why would anyone want to use 6.5? its EOL....
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <tenkawa42> I assume/hope you meant 6.6/6.7
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<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I don't screw with anything hacky/incomplete/irrationally unstable
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> if it's only one of those things, sure
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> but panthor with rk3588 with HDMI out is all three
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> it's the one that worked and Balbes moved on, he's only one dev after all, can't babysit every kernel everywhere
<archetech>
bull
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> experimental driver on experimental kernel with experimental patches
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> pass
<archetech>
the dev said to iest/play w /it
<archetech>
test
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> yeah, I'm just saying it's not getting a lot of attention because it's a ton of work chasing everything just for some tests the people who can build it aren't interested in
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> It would be like me demanding ROS 2 get tested on a brand new kernel and a libgpiod lib get written to support the header
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I find it neat, no one else cares
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> once the kernel doesn't have to have an interesting pile of patches just to have a video out it will gain a lot of traction
<archetech>
its gpu driver not some obscure pkg
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> gpu driver for a board with no HDMI out in mainline
<archetech>
you maki n no sense
<archetech>
all it takes a is a kernel config/build and a branxh of mesa
<archetech>
ch
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> We are talking about RK3588, right?
<archetech>
y
<archetech>
and btw it woorks great as alpha I have it
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> This does not exist in mainline, it's only in experimental kernels
<archetech>
want
<archetech>
its rc4 at boris repo so what its still mainline
<archetech>
67 has much byyer code than 65 for rest of the rock5 functions
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I hadn't even seen the Samsung PHY drivers for the HDMI until after collabora 6.6, so I don't have a clue what was done to 6.5 to make it work
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> you have a link to that repo?
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> and the driver for the RK3588 HDMI does not exist in 6.7 unless you add it yourself, which is what I'm saying, it's all in flux, nothing is stable, and it requires constant attention for changes
<archetech>
click links in that
<archetech>
MR
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> That's Mesa, not the kernel
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> what good is a gpu driver with no display output?
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> it can be patched, but no one here is maintaining that is what I'm saying
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> hopefully the VOP2 and HDMITX drivers get pushed to the mailing list soon, but so far they only live in forks and test builds
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Tonymac32> I know Efe is quite interested in playing with this, perhaps he'll update things, but I don't think he has a Rock5 to modify the device tree to add the nodes
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <viraniac> kreyren, Armbian stable is ok. Affected kernel is only in beta repo. Things will get resolved in beta eventually as well. There is no need to post everywhere for the same
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<KREYREN>
viraniac: Lot of people use edge as stable is pretty annoying with fast package updates, so imho it should be managed
<KREYREN>
(on apt-based distros)
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<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <viraniac> kreyren, you didn't read the message. the affected kernels are only in beta repository. it doesn't matter if you are using current or edge kernel. 23.11 is not affected. only nightly releases will be having the isse
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <viraniac> kreyren, you didn't read the message. the affected kernels are only in beta repository. it doesn't matter if you are using current or edge kernel. 23.11 is not affected. only nightly releases will be having the issue
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <mirza2282> hi i'm windows user and wants to install Debian, can anyone guide me from where i can get iso and tool to make bootable usb
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <mirza2282> or i'm in the wrong server/channel?
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <mirza2282> can i create a thread for further discussion?
<KREYREN>
mirza2282, wait i am logging to discord i will invite you to a chat
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <mirza2282> ok sure
<KREYREN>
mirza2282 invite sent
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <viraniac> You are really childish sometimes. Stable apt repo - apt.armbian.com is on 6.6.2 so is v23.11 branch. Main branch and beta.armbian.com is used in nightly builds. How hard is it for you to understand. Show me one project where dev repo is not having any issues
<KREYREN>
we use nightly builds for teres testing and development
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <viraniac> So switch to v23.11 branch and stable repo
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <viraniac> nightly buils are only for testing and development by maintainers. not for end users. If you are mixing your two roles together, its your problem
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <viraniac> nightly builds are only for testing and development by maintainers. not for end users. If you are mixing your two roles together, its your problem
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <Werner> You are using nightly on your own risk.
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <k.s.bedford.jr> you use linux at your own risk what are talking about ... lol
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <k.s.bedford.jr> JK
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<KREYREN>
viraniac: teres doesn't have users only maintainers and developers
<DC-IRC>
[Discord] <viraniac> Kreyren, I have 10 different things in my queue that I am working on. By the time I will get to this, we would have bumped kernel twice and things would have been already fixed in the uptream. If its bothering you so much, why don't you do what you are supposed to do as maintainer. Fix it yourself and raise PR. If not, please stop complaining
<KREYREN>
It's not bothering me, i told you about the issue and recommended it being managed then it's out of my responsibility