Tartarus changed the topic of #u-boot to: SOURCE MOVED TO https://source.denx.de/u-boot/u-boot.git / U-Boot v2025.01, v2025.04-rc1 are OUT / Merge Window is CLOSED, next branch is CLOSED / Release v2025.04 is scheduled for 07 April 2025 / Channel archives at https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/u-boot
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<marex> dsimic: cool
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<sng> qschulz let me try to reproduce this on my side. if I don't make any progress, will ping you for help.
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<qschulz> marex: is there any reason for having the empty weak armv8_switch_to_el2_prep in assembly rather than in C?
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<marex> qschulz: because TFA returns into that assembly code possibly without stack, so we need to land there and not depend on stack being valid
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<rfs613> say, has anyone ever requested "grep" feature for searching the environment?
<rfs613> doing printenv, copy'paste into a file, then grep... works... but it gets tedious ;-)
<quinq> rfs613, likep grepenv?
<quinq> s/likep/like/
<rfs613> oh, hey, how did I miss that? :P
<quinq> :)
<mkorpershoek> thanks for that, I was not aware of that command either and I'm pretty sure it would have helped me in the past :)
<quinq> When in doubt, look at the source
<rfs613> so, as the next improvement, anytime the default env is more than say 10 lines, the grepenv command should be enabled automatically ;-)
<rfs613> vendors doing vendory things in the env... almost turing complete, maybe even contains an AI...
<quinq> haha yeah
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<samcday> rfs613: You neglected to grep for the grep!
<rfs613> indeed i did... sorry :-)
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<quinq> $ grep grep grep
<samcday> The next time somebody asks about it, we can chastise them for neglecting to grep the chatlogs for the grepped grep
<rfs613> hehe yep, full circle
<quinq> Maybe make it the channel topic
<rfs613> it's kind of funny, I remember when "env" was just setenv/printenv, and not all of the crazy access controls, multiple sources, etc that we have today.
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<quinq> But then people started complaining about the lack of grep
<Sout_> what we really need is vim :P
<rfs613> I think people were like, oh we can't use that, it's way too simple. Gotta add complexity so we can justify hiring consultants!!!
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<rfs613> Sout_: yes vim is needed. And emacs, and VS code, and some electron goodness, maybe inside a container :-P
<Sout_> oo better per app containers for the ultimate security
<quinq> I think you're kind of missing the real security benefit, U-Boot cloud
<Sout_> though ironically the qrcode kernel error messages are sort of cool / useful. ascii qrcode when :P
<rfs613> hexdump would be much more compact, and equally impossible to decode without a cellphone...
<rfs613> but hey, complexity sells better, seemingly even when its free
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<Sout_> also fun fact android has a built in qr scanner no need to install a 3d party one (well the pixel does)
<quinq> Use a serial port
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<samcday> quinq: But how does a serial port help me transfer my QR codes better? /s
<quinq> It does if you use modern tooling like remote+local VSCode (could also be through a U-Boot web-server over serial and a local an electron app)
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<Slimey> QorQ
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<marex> rfs613: can you not start vim as EFI application already ?
<rfs613> marex: you're evil ;-0 and how will it access my dropbox share? :P
<marex> LwIP ?
<rfs613> i mean google drive, oath2, yadda yadda...
<marex> xypron: awesome :)
<marex> rfs613: boot a real OS
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<rfs613> marex: so like minix?
* rfs613 runs
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<cambrian_invader> no, like system/360
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<marex> rfs613: but only on x86 :)
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<sjg1> michal
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