Tartarus changed the topic of #u-boot to: SOURCE MOVED TO https://source.denx.de/u-boot/u-boot.git / U-Boot v2024.07 is OUT / Merge Window is OPEN, next branch is CLOSED / Release v2024.10 is scheduled for 07 October 2024 / Channel archives at https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/u-boot
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<sjg1> Tartarus: Re the full-path problem, I did actually fix it in my first series. So I'd like to go back to applying those patches instead of the one you reverted
<sjg1> Tartarus: It might need a rebase...if so I can do that in a few days
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<Tartarus> sjg1: Well, I don't like that venv modifies PATH, but that's also an expected part of how it works. I didn't really realize buildman was also just by default modifying PATH. Can you point at some external standard / python best practices that says $this is how tools should co-exist when modifying PATH?
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<sjg1> Tartarus: This will change your $PATH so its first entry is the virtualenv’s bin/ directory. (You have to use source because it changes your shell environment in-place.) This is all it does; it’s purely a convenience.
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<Tartarus> Yes, I mean you need to respin anyhow since it's just that one patch now, and explain / point at some external best practices for this case where multiple tools are changing PATH
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<sjg1> Tartarus: Well I can do the first, but the explain / point thing might be beyond my powers. From the docs, we can be sure that venv inserts its path first in #PATH, so adding the toolchain ones second will do what we want. Is that enough?
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<Tartarus> OK
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<calebccff> anyone have thoughts on this nmbl thing that's going around? https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/979789/8cf490335fc4d273/
<calebccff> im surprised at the level of discourse, considering how long LinuxBoot has been around
<derRichard> yeah. linux as bootloader with kexec is known for 10+ years. dunno why it's now a thing again
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<macromorgan> any reason why CONFIG_IS_ENABLED() (or even IS_ENABLED()) would evaluate to 0 no matter what I put there?
<marex> derRichard: I think LAB (Linux As Bootloader) goes back to 2002 and predates kexec ;-)
<derRichard> marex: yes. but i fear nmbl is doomed on non-x86. kexec() is so often broken non-x86
<marex> derRichard: I havent gotten kexec working on x86 either, so ... maybe
<derRichard> on "regular" x86 it usually works.
<derRichard> last time it failed for me on x86 was on some pcengines alix board
<derRichard> but debugging kexec is massive PITA
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<pivi> I remember implementing this (linux/kexec bootloader) for some MIPS SOC something like 18 years ago
<marex> pivi: KSEG and USEG haunts me to this day
<pivi> I did drink enough beer in the last 18 years to get rid of such kind of nightmares
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<marex> heh
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<CounterPillow> Is it really Linux-as-bootloader when it's RedHat's closed source frankenkernel?
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