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<Degi> azonenberg I wonder if it is a good idea to have an argon bottle on hand as a cleaning agent instead of compressed air or the stuff in cans
<monochroma> dry nitrogen is usually cheaper and used for such thing
<azonenberg> @degi: I actually have a dry nitrogen bottle i got for unrelated purposes
<azonenberg> and am looking into getting a higher flow regulator and blowgun for exactly this purpose
<Degi> neat
<azonenberg> i currently use canned duster spray. was using HFC-134a until recently but just got some HFO-1234ze which has a GWP of <1 vs 1300
<azonenberg> But nitrogen is the most environmentally friendly option as it can be generated from the atmosphere trivially and recycled indefinitely
<azonenberg> and costs less than argon
<azonenberg> and also is cheap and readily available from welding suppliers etc
<azonenberg> the big downside is that it's not as portable, the tanks are large and heavy
<azonenberg> so i will likely keep the HFO-1234ze cans in inventory
<azonenberg> for cleaning server fans while running, etc
<azonenberg> and use the nitrogen tank(s) at the main workbenches for drying of boards after defluxing etc
<XMPPwocky> do you have o2 monitoring?
<azonenberg> XMPPwocky: Not at the moment. I have passive safety, though, because of the tank volume
<azonenberg> it's only 20 cubic feet and the lab is 3200
<azonenberg> so a complete uncontrolled dump won't reduce O2 levels by any appreciable quantity
<XMPPwocky> nodnod
<azonenberg> The only time it would potentially be an issue is if i am crawling underneath the bench where the tank is located (chained to a table leg)
<azonenberg> the bench is 3x6 feet and about 3ft above the ground
<azonenberg> so that's 54 cubic feet of space under each of two benches with the tank roughly at the corner of the two
<azonenberg> but even then, while it would be a significant reduction in O2 levels
<azonenberg> it's unlikely to be fatal or immediately incapacitating
<azonenberg> especially since the HVAC unit is right next to that bench so there is a fair bit of mixing
<azonenberg> and thus even if it did dump all at once, it wouldn't all remain hypoxic in that one tiny corner of the room for any length of time
<azonenberg> This was very much a consideration when I picked out the tank originally though
<azonenberg> I ran these numbers at that time and concluded that there was no need for monitoring
<_whitenotifier-e> [scopehal] azonenberg labeled issue #614: LeCroy: calculate UTC offset and DST status at startup - https://github.com/glscopeclient/scopehal/issues/614
<_whitenotifier-e> [scopehal] azonenberg opened issue #614: LeCroy: calculate UTC offset and DST status at startup - https://github.com/glscopeclient/scopehal/issues/614
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