01:53 <NickH> pinpoxIRC: just saw your PR: I think it solves what is probably my only real gripe with with River :-)

02:48 <NickH> Running it now. Thanks! Hope it gets merged.

03:08 <leon-p> we could maybe expand it to have also have a generic -tag flag for send-to-output, might also be helpful i.e. to have keybinds to send windows to specific tags on other outputs (like Super+Alt+2, etc)

03:09 <leon-p> btw, really loving sandbar. Can't remember who wrote it, but it's pretty neat :)

08:04 <pinpoxIRC> NickH: Cool, nice that it works for you!

08:05 <pinpoxIRC> leon-p: I'd vote for merging it with this functionality when reviewed and adding more stuff in a separate PR.

08:06 <pinpoxIRC> Btw. is the "Scratchpad" page of the wiki gone? https://github.com/riverwm/river/issues/355#issuecomment-878080030

08:06 <pinpoxIRC> mentioned in a few issues, but I can't find it

08:44 <ifreund> leon-p: there's no real way to get the curret tags of the target output though... I'd need a convincing motivating use case

08:57 <pinpoxIRC> Is there a way to get all the windows on the currently showed tags of an output?

08:59 <pinpoxIRC> I implemented a "monocle" layout using river-luatile (all windows max size and behind each other) and whould like to show all open views in the bar if that is possible

09:01 <pinpoxIRC> More generally, how do I get information from river or my layout generator to the status bar? Another use-case would be showing the current layout name

09:12 <ifreund> pino

09:12 <ifreund> pinpoxIRC: the river-status protocol is what status bars currently use

09:17 <pinpoxIRC> ifreund: I'm currently using waybar, can you give a pointer on how to do this? I just enabled the modules to show the tags for now, not sure how to add that information

09:17 <pinpoxIRC> or is there a better/other bar that does support this already?

09:19 <ifreund> perhaps waybar doesnt support displaying the current layout name yet, not sure

09:20 <ifreund> there's a list of bars on the wiki

09:32 <pinpoxIRC> Trying through them right now, thought maybe someone here has implemented something like that already

10:06 <maxxv> pinpoxIRC: i3bar-river can display layout name, but river-luatile doesn't have an option to set it yet

12:48 <pinpoxIRC> Is it possible to pass the currently focused output to layout generator?

12:48 <pinpoxIRC> Trying to implement a function layout_switch(outputname) that changes the layout of one output

12:51 <ifreund> the layout generator can use wl_output.name to implement that yeah

12:58 <pinpoxIRC> Oh ok, guess that's a missing feature in river-luatile then, I can't find any example for it

13:00 <pinpoxIRC> Currently it only gets data for every hande_layout() request, but I dont see how I would pass that to custom functions

13:10 <pinpoxIRC> Nevermind, i found it: https://github.com/MaxVerevkin/river-luatile/blob/f0f801727992f25129c318955a4cac551094a2d3/src/main.rs#L35-L41

13:45 <mohan43u> anyone recommend a good UI library to use in zig? I'm more leaning towards lvgl, anything apart from lvgl?

13:54 <leon-p> depends on what you mean by "good"

13:55 <leon-p> also, anecdotally from when I hacked on the pinetime, lvgl is insanely annoying

13:56 <mohan43u> leon-p: is there any alternative to lvgl?

13:56 <leon-p> again, depends on what you want

13:56 <leon-p> do you just want to draw a window with some text and very simple UI elements? Or do you explicitly want something that has predefined widgets?

13:56 <mohan43u> leon-p: just need a gui library to show data

13:57 <leon-p> I mean, things like bar graphs are pretty easy to DIY with cairo or pixman

13:58 <leon-p> the thing with all these "small" gui libs is that they all manage to suck more than the big ones somehow

13:59 <leon-p> sometimes their rendering loop sucks, sometimes they have an awkward component system, sometimes the performance is less than stellar

13:59 <leon-p> therefore for GUI I either DIY it or just use GTK

13:59 <leon-p> GTK sucks, but at least in a managable way

13:59 <mohan43u> leon-p: no, not graphs, a simple label to show couple of data from different censors, may be more labels with different censors will be added in future

14:00 <leon-p> if there is nothing graphical, way not make it a TUI application?

14:00 <leon-p> and if it's just text but you don't want it in the terminal, then pixman plus fcft

14:01 <leon-p> I have an example application, if you want to see some code

14:02 <mohan43u> leon-p: need to put some colors, I like how lvgl have different ways to decorate widgets (yes, the big ones gtk/qt had it for decades)

14:03 <leon-p> you can actually have RGB colours in the terminal

14:03 <mohan43u> leon-p: what kind of problems you faced with lvgl?

14:06 <leon-p> awkward widget system, transition animations not backed by buffers but rather by constantly re-rendering, themeing not well documented, documentation wrong in many cases, curious performance issues when special shapes / widgets were used in their default configuration, etc...

14:06 <leon-p> oh, and the alignment system does not work correctly

14:30 <leon-p> I wonder if firefox has some kind of IPC. I would really like a window switcher that could list individual tabs instead of just the window

15:18 <tleydxdy[m]> just don't use tabs :)

15:21 <leon-p> unfortunately, my firefox starts getting unresponsive when I have more than 7-ish windows open. Right now I have *double check* 364 tabs open. I don't think that would work very well :)

15:25 <novakane> you know tabs can be closed huh :P

15:28 <leon-p> Yeah, I mostly use so many because FFs bookmarks system is more annoying

20:45 <pinpoxIRC> Quick question on the docs: Do I need to edit the rivertile.1.scd file only or the riverctl.1 file aswell?

20:46 <pinpoxIRC> I'm quite confused by the format of the latter

21:08 <pinpoxIRC> leon-p: There is a fuzzy search plugin, dmenu-style searching for tabs and windows https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fuzzytabs/

21:08 <pinpoxIRC> *tabs and bookmarks

21:09 <pinpoxIRC> or: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/saka/

21:28 <waleee> saka is just a worse version of tridactyl afaik

21:29 <waleee> I really miss the good ole' days of vimperator

21:31 <waleee> qutebrowser kind of works out in the same way, but you get worse adblocking than on firefox with ublock origin