ifreund changed the topic of #river to: river - a dynamic tiling wayland compositor || https://github.com/riverwm/river || channel logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/river/
<NickH> Following :-)
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<p00f1> novakane: can you show your zelbar configuration
<p00f1> or anyone else for that matter
<novakane> p00f1: sure, it's a fairly simple one, https://git.sr.ht/~novakane/dotfiles/tree/main/item/.local/bin/bar
<p00f1> thanks
<p00f1> do you use something else for tray
<novakane> nope, I don't use tray
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<ifreund> hrm, I think I need to sort globs by generality to make things like "configure all touchpads to do this thing, except this one touchpad which should not do this thing"
<ifreund> should be doable
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<novakane> oh I didn't saw that you used 0BSD license for globber.zig, that's nice to use these license in common/
<ifreund> yeah, I figure I might want to use them in some other project myself someday :D
<ifreund> I think I'm going to break things a bit more and go with this new filter^W rules interface: https://0x0.st/Hi9o.png
<ifreund> text version without coloring: https://0x0.st/Hi9H.txt
<ifreund> and river will start respecting the CSD/SSD wishes of clients by default
<ifreund> this will also finally allow overriding the sometimes incorrect float heuristics
<tleydxdy[m]> maybe river should delegate it to a external program so the logic can be arbitrarily complex?
<ifreund> It will eventually, but not yet
<ifreund> eventually this will all get pushed out to the window manager process, but I think it's still worth supporting this now as it's a huge improvement
<ifreund> and I can use the same exact interface in rivertile
<tleydxdy[m]> _delegate it to the layout gen_
<ifreund> ?
<upsala> Is there a rough (could be very rough) estimate on when drawing tablets will be supported?
<ifreund> upsala: I have hardware now and it's next on my todo list after I get my current branch merged: https://github.com/riverwm/river/pull/798
<upsala> Nice, that and having some more view rules is the only thing I'm really missing from river
<upsala> Other than that, to me, it's behaving like I used awesomewm on X
<ifreund> there are several different components to good drawing tablet support, the most basic is just sending the wayland events to clients that support the protocol
<ifreund> we also need to support mapping input devices to specific outputs and maybe arbitrary rectangles
<upsala> How do other wlroots based WMs do it?
<ifreund> and then there's also pointer emulation that we should support when a client doesn't support tablet-specific events
<ifreund> upsala: wlroots provides some good helpers but it's a toolkit not a framework so it's up to river to make policy decisions and tie everything together
<upsala> I see, thanks for the explanation
<ifreund> no problem :)
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<plumeus> huh, getting really weird behaviour with gammastep
<plumeus> like, it takes a long time before the effect is applied and certain windows don't change colour properly
<plumeus> switching tags fixes it
<plumeus> One thing to note is that I just upgraded my system and haven't restarted River
<ifreund> plumeus: yeah, this is a wlroots bug with the scene graph direct scanout
<ifreund> setting WLR_SCENE_DISABLE_DIRECT_SCANOUT=1 should fix it, if it doesn't let me know
<plumeus> Good job Mako, I got the same notification twice
<plumeus> ah, okay, it's the wlroots bug that's fixed on master, as you said
<plumeus> I'll test it right now
<ifreund> it's actually not fixed yet, I had that wrong
<plumeus> oh
<ifreund> the other part is actually using that in the scene graph implementation
<plumeus> so, the behaviour is still weird after setting that env var
<plumeus> but the TTY itself was acting really weird
<plumeus> it was ignoring my inputs 80% of the time
<ifreund> strange
<plumeus> when switching to a different tty fixes the issue
<plumeus> so, I might want to restart
<plumeus> yep, behaviour hasn't really changed
<plumeus> I put export WLR_SCENE_DISABLE_DIRECT_SCANOUT=1 in my start_river.sh script
<plumeus> oh, okay, Gammastep works even when a program is fullscreened
<plumeus> so that bug is fixed, and this is just something else
<plumeus> The interesting part of this bug seems to be that portions of the screen that hasn't been updated will not have redshift applied/unapplied
<plumeus> so if I set Gammastep, most of the screen will stay as-is and if I drag my cursor vertically through the screen, redshift will be applied to the portions the cursor went through
<ifreund> plumeus: ah, that sounds like a damage tracking issue :/
<ifreund> I don't think the scene graph has an environment variable to disable damage tracking unfortunately
<plumeus> ha
<plumeus> I don't get why this didn't happen until I updated my system
<ifreund> that I don't know either, I should see if I can reproduce
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<plumeus> `riverctl map normal Super N spawn 'pkill -x ".gammastep-wrap" || gammastep -PO 2000'` is my keybind to turn Gammastep on/off
<plumeus> shouldn't be a problematic way to do so, I'd think. The wrapper is some NixOS specific stuff, could investigate if that's doing something strange
<kolunmi> Hello! I have created a dwm-like bar for river! https://github.com/kolunmi/sandbar
<plumeus> nice
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<ifreund> plumeus: hmm, I can reproduce the failure with fullscreen direct scanout but can't reproduce any partial application
<ifreund> either it works for the entire output or not at all
<plumeus> hmm
<ifreund> kolunmi: very cool, feel free to add it to the "recommended software" wiki page if you like :)
<plumeus> oh wait, it started working as soon as I plugged a charger... what
<plumeus> is this some power saving profile bug? I hope not
<plumeus> yeah, took out my charger and can reproduce
<plumeus> my laptop has 5% battery right now, btw
<ifreund> kolunmi: minor, but you could use wl_output.name instead of depending on xdg-output if you like
<ifreund> should simplify things a bit
<plumeus> idk how I can provide my battery saving settings
<ifreund> hmm, I'm not sure how I would be able to reproduce that even if you did
<ifreund> seems very likely to be hardware-specific
<plumeus> yes, it's great
<kolunmi> ifreund: thank you! I was not aware of wl_output.name. Will definitely switch over
<ifreund> no problem :)
<ifreund> plumeus: Ok, as I understand things it's got to be something lower in the graphics stack than wlroots, probably in the kernel DRM code or drivers
<ifreund> the DRM api wlroots uses only has the ability to set the gamma stuff for the entire output
<plumeus> btw, is it normal that using gammastep and then going to a different TTY will have the effect applied still?
<plumeus> and killing the gammastep process from a different TTY won't stop the effect
<ifreund> Hmm, I can reproduce that
<plumeus> seems like weird behaviour
<ifreund> switching to e.g. a different wayland/x11 session gets rid of the gamma effect
<ifreund> perhaps wlroots should be doing something to clear it on VT switch and isn't
<ifreund> or perhaps the tty program we're using should do something to reset gamma state when it is switched to
<ifreund> I think the latter is more likely from what little I know about the mess that is VT switching
<plumeus> sounds about right
<ifreund> plumeus: opened this issue to track the wlroots bug by the way: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wlroots/wlroots/-/issues/3609
<plumeus> Thanks
<ifreund> man sandbar is such a great name
<jacobly> hey look, I have a cursor
<kolunmi> Thanks! I originally wanted to call it "oxbow" or "oxbar" but that name seems to have been taken by numerous other projects
<kolunmi> ya know, after an oxbow lake
<kolunmi> I added it to the wiki, thanks!
<ifreund> woot, cursor!
<ifreund> did you manage to get a terminal emulator as well?
<plumeus> I kind of want to use wpctl to manage my volume but I just realised the value of the sink changes randomly
<plumeus> hmm
<plumeus> maybe there's a better PipeWire tool. Which I realise now had absolutely nothing to do with River or Wayland, me smart
<plumeus> oh, in case anyone is interesting, I realised @DEFAULT_AUDIO_SINK@ can be used instead of an ID
<jacobly> hmm, not sure how to install man pages lol
<ifreund> jacobly: I personally do `zig build instal -p ~/.local` and then set MANPATH to include ~/.local/share/man
<jacobly> yep that worked
<jacobly> I'm assuming `river -c <path>` overrides ~/.config/river/init
<ifreund> yep
<jacobly> perfect
<plumeus> oh, just realised that it's jacobly
<jacobly> first order need to change keyboard layout...
<ifreund> riverctl keyboard-layout 'us(colemak)'
<plumeus> Still waiting for InputMethodV2... I guess I can attempt to make a PR and fail and cry
<jacobly> uh oh, I also need per-input keyboard layouts because I'm annoying
<ifreund> uh oh, river doesn't have those yet
<ifreund> you could use a keybind to switch between them but that's annoying
<plumeus> I recall somebody (on a different chat) wanting a feature in which their laptop keyboard gets disabled when an external keyboard is plugged in
<ifreund> alternatively I suspect kmonad can do per-keyboard layout switching in the short term
<eShaev9z_> @kolunmi thanks for sandbar, I've been using waybar but I'm making the switch.
<plumeus> there's also zelbar, which I've yet to try
<kolunmi> You're welcome, let me know if you encounter any issues
<kolunmi> I was also using waybar but it's far too complex for what I need
<eShaev9z_> Yeah, I agree. sandbar has been solid out of the box for me so far, I'll let you know if anything breaks.
<jacobly> well I'm getting `error.ConnectFailed` when I run riverctl
<ifreund> jacobly: are you running it from inside river? if not you'd need to set WAYLAND_DISPLAY
<ifreund> (probably WAYLAND_DISPLAY=wayland-1 if you've only started a single river instance)
<jacobly> thanks, now I'm having trouble getting `river -c` to work
<jacobly> oh wait
<ifreund> is your init script executable?
<jacobly> yes, but not shebanged
<ifreund> ah, that'd do it
<jacobly> almost, still not the right keyboard layout
<jacobly> oh when I renamed it I managed to not make it executable or update the references
<ifreund> using a shell script as config is both a blessing and a curse :/
<jacobly> umm what
<jacobly> ok I need to add `riverctl exit` to the end to make it behave that way
<ifreund> hmm?
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<jacobly> after some hairy relative paths I've successfully gotten from boot to river session
<ifreund> nice :)
<jacobly> `~/.config/river/inputs: line 2: riverctl: command not found` awkward
<jacobly> how did programs launched from init get an updated path but not init
<ifreund> that really doesn't make much sense. how are you starting river?
<jacobly> from a program that claims to do that by default
<plumeus> Oh great, now MPV's audio isn't working. Why am I always blessed with problems to solve?
<jacobly> I mean I kind of get it
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<jacobly> alright I can now launch a usable terminal
<jacobly> guess it should be on a keyboard shortcut next
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<jacobly> I guess I have to use qwerty names
<ifreund> jacobly: it's possible to use non-qwerty names with the -layout option of map
<ifreund> e.g. you could do keyboard-layout "us,us(colemak)" and use `map -layout 1 ...` to always use colemak for translating input events for the purpose of mappings
<ifreund> additionally passing `-options "grp:ctrl_space_toggle"` to keyboard-layout would allow toggling between colemak/no-colemak layouts without affecting the location of the mappings
<ifreund> this configuration is all very messy, a better interface should be possible but I haven't found time for that yet
<ifreund> I personally configure my layout stuff in my keyboard's firmware
<jacobly> I would but this layout isn't very condusive to that
<jacobly> too many wrongly-shifted keys
<jacobly> or rather I do, but can only use it for emergencies
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<jacobly> I don't suppose there's a way to hide the cursor permanently
<jacobly> well specifically until the session exits
<ifreund> hmm, I don't think so
<ifreund> perhaps one could hack it by hiding the cursor with a very low timeout and then disabling the input devices that can move it
<ifreund> I don't think anyone's requested that feature before :D
<jacobly> seems to have worked :D
<jacobly> having the cursor visible in a session without mouse interactivity bothers me
<jacobly> I wonder if there's a way to warp to center only on init
<ifreund> there isn't currently afaik
<jacobly> I was hoping for per-mode color
<jacobly> also I think I've reached the end of familiar config
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<ifreund> hmm, you could hack per-mode color by using a script to change mode that also sets the border color
<jacobly> true
<ifreund> what window manager are you coming from?
<jacobly> i3 and briefly sway
<ifreund> well welcome to the dynamic side then :)
<jacobly> is there a multi-command syntax or should I use two
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<jacobly> or is spawning multiple riverctl better
<ifreund> nope, no multi-command syntax, spawning multiple riverctl is the only way for now
<ifreund> it would be slightly more efficient to add one but it's really not a meaningful problem
<jacobly> sometimes when switching vt the keyboard (or maybe everything) stops responding
<ifreund> does it fix itself if you switch vt again?
<ifreund> as I understand it VT switching is an absurdly complex and racy process...
<jacobly> I
<jacobly> I don't think it ever works
<ifreund> it could also be that river is somehow crashing and leaving the VT in a dirty state (including the last rendered frame)
<ifreund> debug log output when that happens would tell, redirect river's stderr to a file or something
<jacobly> or rather, I don't think it ever works with one specific application
<ifreund> ah, probably a client bug then, some clients don't handle a keyboard being removed and re-added properly (which is what they see during a VT switch)
<ifreund> out of curiosity, what application?
<jacobly> wlgreet
<ifreund> kennylevinsen: From a brief glance I dont see code in wlgreet to handle that
<ifreund> its rust though, so I could be missing something...
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