02:13 <leon-p> everyone who wanted directional view focusing, now is your time to help out with testing: https://github.com/riverwm/river/pull/473

11:28 <novakane> leon-p: directional view focus working good for me, nice!

11:29 <novakane> how do you decide which view to focus when you have like one left and 3 right and you focus to the right?

11:30 <waleee> https://github.com/riverwm/river/pull/473/commits/5352d6ddd40328242d6359ecc15e5eebd49257b9#diff-8653fe9c1b7fdb38174ac28739eecd60c4d865ff88652d6186811cdcfe657d0fR26

11:31 <waleee> "triangle-stuff"

11:31 <waleee> to be fair it's in https://github.com/riverwm/river/pull/473/commits/5352d6ddd40328242d6359ecc15e5eebd49257b9#diff-94c737851ec788a5d6130dc38bbae637321e3f845c51d34b2bded626a230c6f6R610

11:35 <novakane> so the difference between all the center of views and focus the closest?

11:35 <novakane> too much maths for me lol

11:38 <waleee> hm bspwm seems to do some funkier stuff to decide it

11:42 <tiosgz_> doesn't that (bspwm) work based on the tree, i.e. each subtree remembers which half is focused? (just guessing what's most likely)

11:43 <waleee> yeah, looks like it uses rectangles for the subtrees and calculates the distance from it

11:44 <waleee> * subtrees starting from particular node

11:47 <leon-p> novakane: TLDR: loop through all views and find the view whose center is closest to the center of the focused view with the offset between the two centers being in the right direction.

11:48 <leon-p> I am currently refactoring the direction code a bit, that should make it more readable

11:51 <novakane> leon-p: allright, I wasn't sure if it was that or you just use the next view in the stack

11:52 <novakane> Oh you published your article on river! Nice!

11:52 <leon-p> novakane: https://github.com/riverwm/river/pull/473/commits/6431c263ddae979f76e266a36f1193a868c51beb#diff-8653fe9c1b7fdb38174ac28739eecd60c4d865ff88652d6186811cdcfe657d0fR27-R42

11:52 <leon-p> that should be a bit clearer

11:53 <leon-p> you can imagine it like having a diagonal cross at the center of a view and the direction is just which of the four areas the "head" of the difference vector lands in

11:54 <leon-p> the math notation is basically just me being a bit too lazy to write all that in english

11:54 <leon-p> novakane: Yes, I rushed the last section yesterday night. Turns out we are not famous on reddit and I decided to plug my article there :P

11:54 <leon-p> s/not/now/

11:57 <novakane> leon-p: ok I get it, sounds good to me, math notation is just not something I know

11:58 <novakane> leon-p: oh what subreddit?

11:59 <leon-p> it's actually pretty simple. "f: Z -> Z, x |-> -x" defines a function that maps integers to integers, in this case just negating the number

11:59 <leon-p> novakane: r/linux

12:01 <novakane> doesn't looks like pretty simple seeing this though lol

12:01 <novakane> damn that's a lot of comments and upvote, cool :)

12:02 <leon-p> yeah, as I said, we are famous now :)

12:02 <leon-p> at least for a day

12:04 <novakane> 2k stars when ifreund is back :P

12:04 <waleee> leon-p: wasn't it croloris that asked for the article? (checked his twitter)

12:04 <leon-p> waleee: I had it planned for a while, but pretty much yes

12:05 <waleee> I was thinking more in the terms of offloading some marketing

12:07 <waleee> oh, when did he start using matrix?

12:08 <waleee> (or is LorisCro[m] someone else?)

12:17 <novakane> leon-p: oh the idea of making a laucher mode is great

12:18 <leon-p> novakane: TBH it's the only thing I came up with when I tried to think of usecases for modes. They are not really a feature I use myself

12:19 <novakane> I don't use it myself too, but that's a good idea though, also snakedye said that you could use it to bind different keys for different layout generators, which is also a good idea

12:46 <novakane> leon-p: hey you forgot about border-color-urgent in Appearance that's like 1/4 of river eye candy :P

12:48 <leon-p> oops :D

13:03 <novakane> anyway after 3 hours I finished reading this, it is a really great article for people that don't know about river, nice job!

13:03 <leon-p> thanks!

13:15 <snakedye> River crashed (more like froze) on me again. How do I get logs?

13:32 <leon-p> snakedye: maybe send it SIGSEGV and try to get a coredump?

13:33 <novakane> snakedye: you don't have anything with debug build and running river with -log-level debug?

13:47 <snakedye> I'll run it with this flag from now on

13:47 <snakedye> But I'll update first

14:37 <leon-p> hey, I think the "output commit failed" bug is back :D

14:37 <novakane> with freeze?

14:49 <leon-p> nope, just log-spam, which I now think is the cause of the random slowness and stuttering I sometimes had

14:51 <novakane> oh well it never gone away to me if we not talking about freeze

14:51 <ifreund> yes, it was never gone. It's present on all wlroots compositors on the affected drivers afaik

14:52 <novakane> yep

14:52 <ifreund> damage tracking papers over the problem by restarting the rendering loop instead of freezing though

14:52 <leon-p> ifreund: how was your concert?

14:52 <ifreund> really good :)

14:52 <leon-p> glad to hear that!

14:57 <ifreund> elshize: hmm, could you tell me a bit more about your setup? it seems like river was continously closing the notifications layer surface as there were no outputs but something kept restarting it. I wonder if river or something else ends up leaking process/memory untill the OOM killer decides to start killing things

15:19 <novakane> reading some issues the other day I was thinking, wouldn't it makes sense to rename `focus-follows-cursor normal` to `enabled`?

15:20 <ifreund> maybe, but that'd be a breaking change

15:20 <ifreund> and what if we want to add back always?

15:22 <novakane> fair enough, not like it's a big thing

15:22 <novakane> I mean a big problem to have `normal`

18:05 <chipps> Hello everyone, I just installed river from the github. What can I use as an application launcher? dmenu doesn't seem to work

18:06 <chipps> I have little to no experience in wayland, so any help will be greatly appreciated

18:07 <leon-p> chipps: https://codeberg.org/dnkl/fuzzel/

18:09 <chipps> leon-p: thank you

18:15 <chipps> but this seems to only list applications with .desktop files, and I don't see how I can see my custom scripts in $PATH with it. How can I do that? like dmenu's dmenu_run ?

18:17 <leon-p> chipps: fuzzel can function as a dmenu drop-in replacement with the -d flag

18:18 <chipps> leon-p: it works, thank you so much

18:21 <leon-p> no problem

18:32 <leon-p> also implemented directional view swapping now

18:35 <leon-p> ifreund: What's your opinion on the directional view operations? I was a bit fast to implement it, probably should have waited for a discussion round. But it has been requested a few times and the implementation is pretty straight forward, so I would not mind it being in river. In fact, it actuall deduplicates the focus-view and swap command code, which is nice.

18:38 <chipps> I can't run steam anymore. Is it possible to run steam on wayland?

18:38 <leon-p> chipps: Maybe it needs XWayland?

18:39 <leon-p> you compiled river from source, right? In that case you need to explicitly enable XWayland support at compile time

18:40 <chipps> oh... ookay let me do it again.

18:40 <chipps> thanks for all the help

18:40 <leon-p> you also need to install XWayland

20:55 <LorisCro[m]> <waleee> "(or is Loris Cro someone else?)" <- that's probably the same person you were referring to :^)

20:56 <LorisCro[m]> can I have a link to the blog post mentioned in that discussion?

20:56 <leon-p> LorisCro[m]: https://leon_plickat.srht.site/blog/setting-up-river-010/article.html

20:56 <leon-p> careful, it turned out to be loooong

20:57 <LorisCro[m]> thanks, I'll take a look by tomorrow

20:57 <LorisCro[m]> leon-p: it's hard to write short stuff :^)