cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: #pypy PyPy, the flexible snake https://pypy.org | IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end and https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/pypy | the pypy angle is to shrug and copy the implementation of CPython as closely as possible, and staying out of design decisions
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<mgorny> do i guess correctly that it should be safe to replace vendored cffi in pypy with the pypi version?
<mgorny> and the vendored greenlet is a separate implementation from pypi greenlet, correct?
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<mattip> no you cannot replace cffi nor greenlet shipped with pypy by other versions
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<mattip> finding a way to tell package managers like pip to respect that led to https://discuss.python.org/t/how-to-vendor-a-package-into-a-python-distribution/80844
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<agronholm> I'm eager to upgrade my CI to use pypy-3.11 instead of pypy-3.10 but that requires a new release of PyO3 - any idea when that might happen?
<mgorny> agronholm: "any time now"
<mgorny> i'm going to make a PR to hopefully speed that up
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