06:40 <fijal> hexology: pretty high

15:31 <mattip> hexology: please let us know if it doesn't work

15:31 <mattip> we implemented the popular parts of the C-API, but there are still some corners

15:31 <mattip> btw, for c++ you might want to check out nanobind

15:35 <hexology> mattip: i fired up the pypy bullseye-slim container on docker hub with --platform=linux/aarch and had no trouble building shapely (bindings to GEOS) and pyproj (bindings to Proj)

15:36 <hexology> actually the one problem i had is that libproj itself is ancient in the bullseye repos, i need bookworm or sid and didn't want to figure out building it from source

15:37 <mattip> cool FWIW, both are available as binary packages on conda-forge

15:37 <hexology> i didn't do it on my mac because i'm waiting for the native m1 release. i expected that rosetta would have issues (library compiled for arm64, executable running in amd64 emulation?). i could not figure out which nightly build i should download either.

15:37 <mattip> https://conda-forge.org/docs/user/tipsandtricks.html#using-pypy-as-an-interpreter

15:38 <mattip> for nightlies, the build that ends in macosx_arm64.tar.bz2 is for M1 native arm64

15:38 <hexology> iirc there are a lot of those on the download page

15:38 <hexology> do i just take the "latest" one at the top?

15:39 <mattip> yup, that is the last one built. We keep the older nightly builds around for historical reasons,

15:39 <hexology> i didn't realize conda supported automatically using pypy like that. i assumed if i installed it in an env that all the python packages would still be installed using cpython

15:40 <mattip> hmm, that is a failure in publicizing the information. Would expanding the information there help?

15:40 <mattip> or maybe we should do a blog post about conda support

15:41 <mattip> "hey, everyone, you should know there are more than 1000 binary packages for PyPy available on conda-forge

15:41 <mattip> "

16:05 <tumbleweed> make it a recommendation on the download page?

16:28 <hexology> +1 to the blog and download page callout

18:58 <mattip> hexology: would this have helped?

18:58 <mattip> https://deploy-preview-77--keen-mestorf-442210.netlify.app/posts/2022/11/pypy-and-conda-forge.html

18:59 <mattip> and this part of the download page

18:59 <mattip> https://deploy-preview-77--keen-mestorf-442210.netlify.app/download_advanced.html#installing-more-modules

19:21 <mattip> I also added a sentence to the top of the download summary page

19:21 <mattip> https://deploy-preview-77--keen-mestorf-442210.netlify.app/download.html

19:21 <mattip> review is welcome