cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: #pypy PyPy, the flexible snake https://pypy.org | IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end and https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/pypy | hacking on TLS is fun, way more fun than arguing over petty shit, turns out
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<Guest27> tiny 'educated guess' question. When do you estimate PyPy for 3.8 should go out of beta ? and 3.9 entering beta ?
<mattip> I hope the next release, in the spring, will tick those boxes.
<mattip> Then if we could release a 3.10 towards the end of 2022 that would be grand
<mattip> depends on how much assistance we get in reporting bugs, fixing them, and implementing the needed features
<Guest27> and won't you need an hpy 'PEP' to get that needed assistance/momentum ?
<mgorny> mattip: i see jaraco merged the distutils PR ;-)
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<mattip> whohoo!
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<cfbolz> I usually don't mind our rpython build times, but for the new parser it's really a pest
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<Guest2751> a binary wheel on pypy-3.8 https://pypi.org/project/cramjam/#files has landed on pypi
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<Guest27> Winpython64-3.7.12.0PyPy Release candidate is out, missing 63 package out of 571 for Winpython-3.9 (11%) because of mypy, Pyside6, numba , Pytorch.
<Guest27> hopefully soon we will get mypy and Pyside6
<cfbolz> and annotation passed! now some really obscure rpython errors
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<cfbolz> yay, it compiles :-)
<cfbolz> the interactive prompt parsing is broken (I was kind of expecting that)
<mattip> it seems openssl3 works now
<cfbolz> mattip: niiiice!
<cfbolz> what was the bug?
<mattip> there are nested try segments, so I needed to find exactly the right one to add another clause to check for an error that is somehow different
<mattip> on CPython, reading from a socket after a SIGPIPE returns 0, on PyPy it returns -1
<mattip> returning -1 then is turned into an exception with an UNEXPECTED_EOF_WHILE_READING reason
<mattip> so I needed to check for that
<mattip> one complicating factor is that the error codes changed between OpenSSL1.1.1 and OpenSSL3,
<mattip> so instead of a clear UNEXPECTED_EOF_WHILE_READING error, I was seeing a confusing KRB5_S_TKT_NYV reason
<cfbolz> oh :-(
<cfbolz> mattip: cool that you found it though :-)
<tumbleweed> well done
<mattip> someday we should figure out what is going on with the failure mode of socket.socket, but :shrug:
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<tumbleweed> yeah, seems like something to file a bug about
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