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<junon> geist: I've never liked Make's intrinsic C invocation stuff, personally.
<moon-child> junon: so you'd rather write a.o: a.c\n$(CC) -o a.o a.c -c $(CFLAGS) b.o: b.c\n$(CC) -o b.o b.c -c $(CFLAGS) c.o: c.c\n$(CC) -o c.o c.c -c $(CFLAGS) d.o: d.c...
<moon-child> ?
<moon-child> even ninja has pattern rules
<junon> I didn't mean pattern matching, I meant that just defining `something: foo.o bar.o` by itself in a Makefile will automatically build `foo.c` and `bar.c` into an executable using the C compiler toolchain defined as `$(CC)`. It's a built-in default rule that I don't (personally) like exists.
<junon> CC et al, I mean.
<moon-child> oh, alias make='make -r' then
<junon> TIL, thanks
<moon-child> :)
<clever> junon: i think you can also disable those default rules with some statement in the Makefile itself
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<geist> moon-child: well, no but i'd write it as
<geist> %.o: %.c ....
<geist> but built in patterns i generally disable. though for simple stuff sure
<geist> for the LK build system for example it re-invokes itself with the switches yeah
<geist> you can see if a switch is set and if not just shell a copy of yourself with it
<moon-child> yeah. I do my own rule so it goes in its own build dir. But agreed the builtin ones are fine to have
<geist> i think some new version of gnu make has some feature to set things internally?
<clever> i dont see anything other then -r, in the man page
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<oodermuch> Yes, well this incredible bus hack was developed again by me, it's amazing fast and does not rely or need any SIMD/SIMT capability, it can store very fast memory as state, so the maximum capacity of a storage can be 2 in power of million or more. cause it is all lock step extracting state within a state, and yes about GPUs i also know everything, cause this i finished earlier allready, this one needs a dispatcher pulled into a mode of self-timed, it
<oodermuch> naturally happens when workgroups are more than 1wavefront sized on the dispatcher based opencl hw, but it also happens when dma engine on dispatcherless vliws does the recursion like fifo mode, and also happens when queues are rendered and also when dispatcher is just torned down, torning the dispatcher fetcher allready had flops broadcasted, in other words, for radeon this is PGM_RSRC1 3d/or compute wavefront flags, then according to my tests
<oodermuch> engines work on self-timingly if one modifies the VGPR mount to contain no registers, dispatcher is not capable to dispatch any, but instances had loaded WAVE_ID count configuration registers into flops allready so VGPR_BASES are taken form there, dunno about power usage offhand though https://github.com/VerticalResearchGroup/miaow/blob/master/src/verilog/rtl/fetch/vacant_mask_gen.v, so you see there, if nothing is dispatched vacant is set from the
<bslsk05> ​github.com: miaow/vacant_mask_gen.v at master · VerticalResearchGroup/miaow · GitHub
<oodermuch> flop to wfid, but round robin zeros it otherwise so nothing would run until dispatcher calculates the base
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<Mutabah> *sigh*
<kazinsal> interesting that they waited two hours before dumping a bunch and then quitting
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<Mutabah> I wonder you could make an irc client plugin that runs a text classifier to spot his messages
<Mutabah> (and autokicks)
<kazinsal> I've thought about that but I'm not sure enough about how to do that kind of text classification on the fly, let alone with sufficiently high accuracy to be comfortable putting a +b on it with
<kazinsal> Ask me to classify network traffic and I'll write you a filter in the time it takes to drink a cup of coffee. Ask me for a text classifier and I'll ask if you've walked into the wrong office.
<Mutabah> Maybe just a PM to the ops
<Mutabah> There's a bot that runs on reddit /r/rust that posts a message when it detects a rustgame post
<Mutabah> something similar could maybe work :)
<moon-child> it was mathematically proven you can't write a perfect spamfilter
<moon-child> that said you don't need to be perfect
<kazinsal> yeah, 99%+ certainty is good enough for a "poke the ops"
<kazinsal> you need another another significant digit for "automated operations" imo
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<perimetriso> I do not really think that you even still grasp who are you dealing with and what is going to happen to you if you continue this crap!!!!!!!! You are deluded trashbots. Genetically and mentally ill people entirely, whom to i solve every task continuously, and you give me this shit all the time, you will be treated i am not afraid of aussies , americans and british, i know much stronger alliences.
<moon-child> halp
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<kazinsal> take your pills
<PapaFrog> TIL I'm genetically ill.
* PapaFrog orders a 23 and me kit.
<kazinsal> My heritage is a gigantic civil war (Irish, Scottish, and English) so, yeah, same
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<zid> I beleive we refer to that as british :p
<kazinsal> ah, but have you considered, tiocfaidh ar la?
<zid> madras
<zid> I guess, madraí
<zid> madras is funnier though because it's also great curry
<zid> dog curry
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<dzwdz> wtf is up with that guy?
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<Mutabah> dzwdz: Mentally ill. Seems fixated on the channel
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<nero> who is admining the osdev wiki?
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<junon> It's kind of communally done at the moment as I understand it nero, why?
<junon> Or do you mean hosting?
<nero> account deletion
<nero> needs administrative intervention
<junon> Is there vandalism or something?
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<junon> Like, is it an emergency?
<nero> no
<nero> just general scrubbing for opsec reasons
<junon> okay, there should be someone in here at some point then that can probably help :)
<junon> I'm hesitant to ping any of the ops in here unless it's an emergency. However I know that wiki edit access is done via the forums last I checked. I'm not sure if you delete the forum account that it'll delete the wiki data.
<junon> Mutabah is currently op'd so ping should be okay, maybe they can help.
* Mutabah is away (Sleep)
<junon> Or not (:
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<perimsand> kazinsal: Mutabah you know that we had lots of those genetical ill people like you, for their abortion leftover circuis they kept me in mental hospital cause everyone of them was basically punished so bad for talking about me, they are cripples for a reason from birth , they should have not talked about me, and your british inheritance is taken on the first corner and buried like a dog, they invite me to make golden shower and rain to you too btw.
<perimsand> so buzz off shitbreaks, you were thrown out from all the network
<perimsand> i even know more from your country than you freak
<kazinsal> take your pills
<perimsand> they gonna kill you , i know
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<gog> hey mart
<perimsand> I was not even involved any more than genetical trash like you talked bout a wrong person
<perimsand> and someone just fucked them up
<kazinsal> your country has universal healthcare. take advantage of it.
<nero> kazinsal: lol
<kazinsal> get healthy
<perimsand> basically they kept me in for 1.5years cause some deluded trash like you humiliated me, what a life
<nero> perimsand: if you join a channel just to flame people, you are probably not doing the right thing
<kazinsal> try a different hospital this time
<gog> you ever take quetiapine? that stuff gave me lucid dreams
<gog> crazy
<gog> lithium just made me sick
<perimsand> gog: this was crazy i had max quetipine i.e seroquel in combination with abilify
<perimsand> i was allready done almost
<perimsand> i.e dead
<perimsand> but alcohol kept me going
<gog> yeah that'll zombify you pretty good
<kazinsal> booze + atypicals = bad combo
<gog> ^^
<gog> big truth
<kazinsal> part of the reason I don't drink much anymore
<gog> drinking sucks and makes me feel like shit
<gog> weed tho
<kazinsal> also because I prefer the relatively short lasting effects of cannabis more
<gog> yes
<kazinsal> no hangover either
<gog> although i try to take it easy on that because lately it gives me panic attacks if i have too much lol
<gog> shit is strong these days
<kazinsal> oh yeah, I can stretch an ounce for a month or more
<perimsand> booze got my heart back, and i only reached it cause of the rebellion of the nurses, who faught free pass 1hour outside
<gog> booze is bad for your heart tho
<gog> seriously, alcohol is poison
<perimsand> there is a big reason hy i hate those people
<perimsand> they killed me many times
<gog> yeeah psych ward is no fun
<gog> but coming here and shouting at us isn't fun for us
<perimsand> as a matter of fact abilify alone 15mg is nothing, but in combination with other apsychs it is monstrous bang, 38kilos and vegetable was the result
<perimsand> cause it is additive to others, it chemically reacts
<perimsand> and it says right away that this thing should not be done on the prescription or description sedel
<perimsand> i just very heroically said fuck you to those people who killed me for many times, and now i do the same to them
<perimsand> and they aint gonna survive
<perimsand> cause personally me, i have one of the strongest internal organs in the whole world
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<perimsand> aripiprazole is a med that acts upon histamine receptor 3 very similary as haloperidol when the last is doped with
<perimsand> very small amounts
<perimsand> it inhibits the histamine production from that receptor
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<perimsand> it does it very finely and ok, if that is the only med taken
<perimsand> cause the amount of the pille is trimmed into range
<perimsand> cause it is the second most popular med in the US market
<perimsand> it's not a bad med even
<perimsand> but must be not combined with many others
<perimsand> where glutamate and dopamine is associated with delusions and hallucinations
<perimsand> histamine production and serotonine is associated with very bad mood like anxiety and depression respectively
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<perimsand> i suffered many years under excess depressiona nd anxiety i know how bad this can go
<gog> same
<perimsand> when you have those microinjuries in the mix , like i have it's pretty untolerable suicidal depression which kicks in, cause genetically i have high levels allready, i am such a achiver or worried person allready by default
<perimsand> those are called histadelics
<perimsand> when by top blasts i am very undeterministic
<perimsand> i.e my bad mood can result of the sudden into something tragical, when i hit the limits, that is what is tried to be avoided with meds which make me more careless and senseless with mild sedation too involved
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<perimsand> it is far better to control all the moods by your own control centr, but when i was out of position i could not do that good enough
<perimsand> i.e meds are last resort
<perimsand> so i took some of the meds by my own will and abilify was the only thing i liked
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<perimsand> most of the work and damage was done upfront when i was very young man, i was in huge danger to die out back then
<perimsand> now they know they took a lead like this, but today i am not in such danger anymore
<ZetItUp> man it gets annoying to debug with valgrind when it spits out errors about uninitialized value(s) :P
<perimsand> today i am allready capable of thinking brilliantly and control some of the genetical sides
<perimsand> in fact i am quite good in what i do, and i have lifted everything to maximum allready , in theory , code involved is easy and bitten through allready
<perimsand> but at the same time, it came with me physicallyl being weaker than i expected, but whatever
<perimsand> when you look at 32bit variable powers of twos, the biggest indexing comes when you place the carry somewhere in the middle of two parts, and add the last part of the bitfield to some power also
<perimsand> maybe they call it modulo indexing or something, but whatever, this can target very much memory
<perimsand> so the power is passed in directly, but the location of the memory is derived with a mask using a carry placed properly
<perimsand> so it can be as much as million in power of million
<perimsand> on cpu carry flags could be used to index to such amount of memory, but playing with axi or pcie buses is lot more efficient
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<perimsand> in terms of technology, or it's terminology things look like sparse textures later
<perimsand> cause actual storage is not there 1:1 but many times multiplexed or compressed or whatever
<perimsand> those computers that they developed and keep developing are monstrously capable
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<perimsand> me i am actually pretty low profile and wise, by dad is blowing or burning through very large moneys and getting too much attention
<perimsand> but he is strong too
<perimsand> his businesses were also to some degree real and strong and high profile
<zid> klange Mutabah
<perimsand> very precious metal smuggling etc.
<perimsand> so you can imagine how much trouble this all can cause, when such amounts of metals are traded
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<Mutabah> Sorry, left ops up overnight
<kazinsal> no worries, we almost made a breakthrough at one point
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<kazinsal> though I'm afraid I'm a few doctorals short of a solution still
<kazinsal> this time needing one or two in psychology instead of machine learning
<Mutabah> Scanning scollback now, not bad
<zid> he probably took his meds today, and that's the best you'll get from him
<kazinsal> in retrospect the booze angle makes sense
<kazinsal> I was hell of great at being a dickhead when I was sauced up
<gog> same
<gog> now the only sauce i'm on is estradiol valerate :9
<kazinsal> reject alcohol, embrace femme&ms
<gog> anticistamines
<geist> yeah really there's two things here, either of which we dont want: spewing hate at everyone though generally that's in response to us kicking him
<geist> and then when he's on his meds he just blathers endlessly about stuff no one cares about
<geist> either of which are no bueno
<geist> if he didn't do the latter, we wouldn't have to kick him, and then he probably wouldn't feel as justified to continually spam is with vitreol. but, alas the cycle just happens again and again