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<nikolaytihonov> hello everyone
<nikolaytihonov> remember me? I was here in 2019
<nikolaytihonov> rolling my own molothic kernel LenochkaOS
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<Izem> The job of the os is to provide access to hardware resources. Minimally this would just be memory so that you can run processes? What else might be required?
<GeDaMo> I/O
<moon-child> networking, hard disc, cpu time
<GeDaMo> Not much good in running a program if you can't output a result
<Izem> Ok, good
<moon-child> various peripherals--monitor, keyboard, mouse, leds, usb fan, dildos...
<Izem> I think I am starting to get a picture of osdev
<Izem> moon-child: I am thinking about basic os design, those other elements can be acomodated for later
<clever> id say at a bare minimum, the kernel should provide memory management, threading and context switching, messaging between threads, and a way to access the raw hardware
<clever> and a way to spawn a new thread in an isolated memory env
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<Izem> yeah that's what I am thinking
<clever> more advanced kernels will put the hardware driver into the kernel
<clever> unikernels put the drivers and network stack into another userland thread
<Izem> Did early operating systems with batch jobs run them sequentially?
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<Izem> yeah it seems so then it went to multitasking
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<hbag> found this SSH key that i thought i lost
<hbag> woo
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<geist> Grants
<geist> Should probably retire it though, but hey, free ssh key
<geist> Actually reminds me i should roll some of mine, make sure they’re the current level of high bitness, etc
<geist> I’ve been using 4K rsa (or is it dsa) keys for a while, but i guess the current hotness is the ecNNNN ones i think
<moon-child> ed25519 i thought
<geist> Yah that
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